Unless the building is a registered heritage site, they aren’t going to put the same type of windows back in, they would modernize it, the cost savings on the insulation alone would recoup the cost in less than 10 years.
HoAs can require using historic or approved replacement materials.
Many cities have warehouses of replacement materials that you can peruse, good will operates some even.
I can go get a replacement window for my 1920s home for dirt cheap at the warehouse whereas the replacement modern version is very much not dirt cheap.
I can put the old window framed window in by myself in an afternoon.
The person you’re talking to is literally saying old hats say the introduction of a modern building technique is amazing, idk why it’s in doubt.
If you’re installing old stuff like that, you’re throwing money away… a modern window will pay for itself in a matter of years.
It’s not saving money… freaking lol.
And modern to ancient, nothing changes, windows still aren’t a solo job, while doors can and are…. Yes you can install a window by yourself, but it’s not the correct way to do it, it takes half a second and the window tips and cracks. You mind as well buy a second while you’re there. Anything is possible, that doesn’t mean that it’s not being an absolute fool to do so.
You might not realize this but a lot of people are unfortunately unable to buy the best thing for their scenario because they are not wealthy enough to afford them.
Which is why many homes to this day will not get the best option for them despite it being available.
Again idk what this has to do with the original statement that newer building techniques and modern fabrication has made things easier.
You might not realize this but a lot of people are unfortunately unable to buy the best thing for their scenario because they are not wealthy enough to afford them.
No I do realize, I’m trying to point out to you, that maybe those foolish decisions are what are leading to not having money…? Don’t go pick a dumpster window out, then be shocked when you find out your heating/cooling bill is 400% your neighbours. Or if you can’t afford home ownership and need to make your house a shithole to live in, go rent. What a self centered attitude.
What that people aren’t willing to adjust their circumstances instead of spiraling into debt? A couple of years of hardship and you can get back to normal. It’s foolish to think your situation is ever going to change without effort or hardship on your end. Are you seriously relying on someone else or society to bail you out? How incredibly selfish ignorant, and shortsighted.
But sure perpetuate that making continual foolish decisions is somehow the norm.
I too prefer drafty homes that you need to pay out the nose to heat or cool…
Living in the past ignoring modern convenience’s isn’t a thing to parade around… there’s a reason dedicated heritage sites aren’t just handed out, it requires proper contractors, you can’t do that stuff yourself.
Where are you getting your information from? You’re arguing with a red seal carpenter of a couple decades who has worked from modern homes to actual heritage sites where you need to mill down a hand made door to be an EXACT as you can replica.
Keeping with the old times isn’t something that’s done unless you got money to burn, or are quite frankly a fool.
Im getting my information from my own experience as I have repeatedly stated. I don’t appreciate the suggestion that I don’t know what I am talking about because my experience differs from yours. Your apparent qualifications don’t make you an expert in other’s lives.
You might be surprised what wealthy people are willing to spend money on.
I’ve done those jobs, but going back to your original claim, a window isn’t a single person job, and a door can be. So yes a wealthy person would spend a lot of money to have MULTIPLE install an incredibly inefficient modern window that’s wood, just for looks. But they also know they’ll likely be fixing them every 5 years. Fools and their money make me more money.
If I hired a contractor to install windows on any house and they showed up themselves I’d send them packing, but not a door installer.
But those people are the edge cases, you can’t talk generically about something like they are gospel, that’s just foolish and will be called out.
Because this all started talking about how some windows are still framed in wood. A single person can in fact carry everything to construct a wooden window without the assistance of a crane or forklift.
My point initially was with older wooden homes, like you find in America particularly on the East Coast where I worked, you can do windows by yourself but it is harder to frame and hang doors from scratch by yourself.
Unless the building is a registered heritage site, they aren’t going to put the same type of windows back in, they would modernize it, the cost savings on the insulation alone would recoup the cost in less than 10 years.
HoAs can require using historic or approved replacement materials.
Many cities have warehouses of replacement materials that you can peruse, good will operates some even.
I can go get a replacement window for my 1920s home for dirt cheap at the warehouse whereas the replacement modern version is very much not dirt cheap.
I can put the old window framed window in by myself in an afternoon.
The person you’re talking to is literally saying old hats say the introduction of a modern building technique is amazing, idk why it’s in doubt.
If you’re installing old stuff like that, you’re throwing money away… a modern window will pay for itself in a matter of years.
It’s not saving money… freaking lol.
And modern to ancient, nothing changes, windows still aren’t a solo job, while doors can and are…. Yes you can install a window by yourself, but it’s not the correct way to do it, it takes half a second and the window tips and cracks. You mind as well buy a second while you’re there. Anything is possible, that doesn’t mean that it’s not being an absolute fool to do so.
You might not realize this but a lot of people are unfortunately unable to buy the best thing for their scenario because they are not wealthy enough to afford them.
Which is why many homes to this day will not get the best option for them despite it being available.
Again idk what this has to do with the original statement that newer building techniques and modern fabrication has made things easier.
No I do realize, I’m trying to point out to you, that maybe those foolish decisions are what are leading to not having money…? Don’t go pick a dumpster window out, then be shocked when you find out your heating/cooling bill is 400% your neighbours. Or if you can’t afford home ownership and need to make your house a shithole to live in, go rent. What a self centered attitude.
Yes it’s expensive to be poor, this isn’t new.
Your take is really gross.
What that people aren’t willing to adjust their circumstances instead of spiraling into debt? A couple of years of hardship and you can get back to normal. It’s foolish to think your situation is ever going to change without effort or hardship on your end. Are you seriously relying on someone else or society to bail you out? How incredibly selfish ignorant, and shortsighted.
But sure perpetuate that making continual foolish decisions is somehow the norm.
Jesus Christ, yep just grab their bootstraps and pull themselves up, right?
No, adjust your situation, you don’t need to work harder, but accept that you can’t buy a coffee everyday, buy a coffee maker and make your own.
How conceited how you?
You might be surprised what people were willing to do to preserve the illusion of an old home.
I too prefer drafty homes that you need to pay out the nose to heat or cool…
Living in the past ignoring modern convenience’s isn’t a thing to parade around… there’s a reason dedicated heritage sites aren’t just handed out, it requires proper contractors, you can’t do that stuff yourself.
Where are you getting your information from? You’re arguing with a red seal carpenter of a couple decades who has worked from modern homes to actual heritage sites where you need to mill down a hand made door to be an EXACT as you can replica.
Keeping with the old times isn’t something that’s done unless you got money to burn, or are quite frankly a fool.
Im getting my information from my own experience as I have repeatedly stated. I don’t appreciate the suggestion that I don’t know what I am talking about because my experience differs from yours. Your apparent qualifications don’t make you an expert in other’s lives.
You might be surprised what wealthy people are willing to spend money on.
A fool and their money is soon departed…
I’ve done those jobs, but going back to your original claim, a window isn’t a single person job, and a door can be. So yes a wealthy person would spend a lot of money to have MULTIPLE install an incredibly inefficient modern window that’s wood, just for looks. But they also know they’ll likely be fixing them every 5 years. Fools and their money make me more money.
If I hired a contractor to install windows on any house and they showed up themselves I’d send them packing, but not a door installer.
But those people are the edge cases, you can’t talk generically about something like they are gospel, that’s just foolish and will be called out.
Again having done this IRL it is possible to do a wooden framed window by yourself. It isn’t advisable but it can be done.
What does wood have to do with it?
You can also do any other frame material as well.
Is this what your point was? That wood alone could be done by yourself…?
Because this all started talking about how some windows are still framed in wood. A single person can in fact carry everything to construct a wooden window without the assistance of a crane or forklift.
My point initially was with older wooden homes, like you find in America particularly on the East Coast where I worked, you can do windows by yourself but it is harder to frame and hang doors from scratch by yourself.