Wanna bet that he uses the immigrants in the camps? Meaning, slave labor.
That’s the only way it’s gonna work, because no immigrant is going to trust this Administration at its word. These poor folks can do everything correctly, by the book, and Trump can still say “Sike! Off you go to CECOT”
Duh. America was built on slaves and blood. It’s the only way they know.
Trump already said he’s going to make the farmers “responsible for these people” — Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QqdLW8K8Jg&list=RDNS8QqdLW8K8Jg&start_radio=1
He even called the farmers “owners”.
Exactly. Probably by design.
I won’t take that bet because it was their plan from the start.
According to the 13th Amendment:
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Arrest the migrant workers. Funnel them through a for profit prison. Rent the workers to the same farms as slave labor and pocket what would normally have been their wages.
Wish I didn’t see this as a highly likely scenario.
It’s pretty annoying to always see for-profit prisons mentioned like they’re the majority. Only 8% of prisoners in the US are housed in them.
The fact is that government run prisons are just as corrupt, if not more, through contracts that include kickbacks for the people in charge, or contracts owned by companies the people in charge or their families own.
The concentration camps the immigrants are being sent to are where the labor will come from.
if over 90.000 prisoners held in private prisons (in 2022!) is “only” to you, than yeah, those couple lifes is prolly just a drop in the ocean
The duly convicted part will only slow them down. I’m sure they’ll establish new immigration courts or appoint new, loyal judges who will render a verdict every 5 minutes if asked.
What’s that you say, former citizen with no constitutional rights?
Silly you thinking that it could be limited to “immigrants”.
I bet it’s slaves. It’s always slaves with this lot.
Cant have slaves, yet? Oh well, criminals. Just take the people who would be slaves and find something to lock them up for, then slaves.
Capitalism is an open air prison and the rules are getting harsher for some. Then, for more. Soon, everybody else.
“Criminals” = slaves
Source: 13th Amendment
And with Trump, anyone can be a criminal with no due process.
Wait, just hear me out, if we wait for the concentration camps to fill up with immigrants and political prisoners, they can provide the same labor FOR FREE while also providing a nice sum for the private prison firms that, in turn, grease the prison-to-profit machine!
All this with the added bonus that some of the labor will already be skilled. It’s brilliant!!
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Also I doubt farmers want prisoners with grudges going about their property. Best case scenario they damage something accidentally and don’t say anything which could become quite expensive depending on the thing that got broken, for example a water valve. Worst case scenario they go out of their way to break shit and basically the same problem but intentional and coordinated. Also I doubt the guards would be much better.
This has literally been the plan from the start, it’s not a joke.
It’s gonna be children and slave labour isn’t it?
Ain’t no way like the American way
If by slave labor you mean prison slave labor which will include the aforementioned detained migrant prisoners doing their old jobs, then yes.
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I think we all want to be paid a fair wage for our labor AND and fair price for food, with reasonable expectations of safety on both sides. 50+ years of wage stagnation and the expectation from major corpos that they can keep extracting more profits are two factors working against us, though. The problem isn’t about what consumers are willing to pay for food.
We, the People, aren’t going to be able to fix this if we don’t start electing leaders that can resist big-dollar donors and lobbyists, because we need regulations around major markets that will be met with insane amounts of resistance by money-backed interest groups. We need labor reforms, we need housing reforms, we need finance sector reforms, and none of those are favorable for a Fortune 500 company’s “Line go up” policy when implemented. But far too much money has flowed out of the hands of the poor and middle class while the ultra-wealthy are buying islands and yachts (and bugout bunkers in case of an uprising or whatever), and fixing that issue in both an acute and a systemic way is necessary and needs to happen before we get better.
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I feel like your entire post is ignoring the hoarding of wealth at the top while focusing on the financial impacts that would happen to the people at the bottom due to the aforementioned greed at the top. Those people “who have no idea how much their food would cost if they were paying the workers a fair wage” have also never been paid a fair wage.
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That last part is where we disagree. You are underestimating the wealth extraction that has taken place during the post-WWII boom. I’m not going to argue further because I’m going to bed, but I’ll suffice to agree to disagree.
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I feel it’s necessary to point out a lot of these farmers are contacted to major brands, both food and pest control, who take the majority of profit, often leaving the farmers themselves without much.
Why can’t the government subsidize food prices or farm wages? I mean it beats wasting it on tax breaks for billionaires and weapons for Israel.
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Why indeed.
We literally used to have Farm worker visas but then Americans got too racist against the workers who pick our food and then they stop giving them out it’s so frequently so now we have the undocumented labor problem
You’re very right, but one important caveat is that US-born citizens do not want these jobs. They literally think it’s beneath them and won’t do it.
I’m serious; I’ve worked with migrant farm laborers for 12 years. Citizens will choose exploitation over and over and over rather.
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Actually it turns out it’s a lot easier to just convince Americans to be cool with slavery again instead.
When they find reasons to keep certain immigrants, deportations of others will increase to take up the slack. Every American, even multi-generation born and raised should be afraid. Trump and his Republican administration isn’t constrained by either the law or the constitution. He has proven that the US has no mechanism for stopping him from doing whatever the hell he wants.
I bet I could be on the chopping block…I dunno how good their digital foot printing it is, but if it is good then they will know I really, really, really, really, really, really hate Trump.
I could see my citizenship being questioned because of how I was born. I could also see them passing a law that would force me choice between my dual nationalities.
FYI folks I was born to a US service member.
… a solution, you say?
Why do I get the feeling this “solution”, for these people you have in the country but don’t want, will be very… final?
checks notes
The USA has about 20% of the world’s prison population and only around 4% of the world’s population.
Looks like we found our solution!
Fuck America and their industry
Round them up, then make them work the same jobs for free. Just like they planned. Just like we predicted.
Like, a final solution?
