• LordBelphegor@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Only no, make fun of Mussolini by all means, but dont think CCP and Soviet actions arent any different, both wanted to eradicate minorities and built concentration camps, both were against the lgbtq.

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      1 year ago

      For a socialist you sure do spend a lot of time bashing succesful revolutionary projects and you sure do spend a lot of time downplaying the actions of fascists just-a-theory

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        1 year ago

        I dont complain about Vietnam. They never caused problems to their neighbours.

        Downplay fascists all you want. But Tankies arent very different from fascists.

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          Oh hey neat once again you didn’t engage with the one that gave you actual facts, it’s almost as if you’re not interested in a good faith discussion.
          Define Tankie without the word “authoritarian”.
          Define authoritarian.
          And then go do some research on the “crimes” you claim, but try something other than the black book of communism or similar dreg. You’re not gonna tho, because you’re not interested in learning. If you were you would have engaged with the many resources put available to you.
          I’ve made it easy tho here’s a link

          I’m not the one equating genociders with ahistorical claims of - well you haven’t really described anything yet, but since you’re just a garden variety lib it’s probably either gonna be zenz or stalin-spoon. If all you do is critique successful socialist revolutions, then it doesn’t matter what you identify as, you are in fact just a lib. If all you do is critique based on no investigation then you are in fact just a lib.

          Edit: I also forgot to mention that neither the PRC nor the USSR claims or claimed to be socialist or communist, which is something you would know if you did the bare minimum of research.

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          Downplay fascists all you want. But Tankies arent very different from fascists.

          The historical origin of the term tankie is CPGB members getting mad that Khruschev put down an antisemitic, fascist, CIA-backed fake revolution in Hungary lol.

          “Hello fellow leftists I think crushing fascists with tanks is the same as crushing civilians with tanks”

          fuck outta here

          • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            1 year ago

            Its funny how libs that think they’re socialists or very left, or whatever may have one AES that for some reason is okay. Vietnam with this lib, I’ve seen some that believe all the State Dep shit, except about Cuba. Its like, why just that one place? Have you considered the rest?

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              With Vietnam in particular, some US liberals have a sort of guilt thing because of the Vietnam war, but something both Cuba and Vietnam have in common (with respect to both): They’re not very big, they’re not very powerful. I think the support you sometimes see for them is extremely dependent on them remaining largely powerless. Kind of the same reason for the whole “supporting every revolution, except the ones that succeeded” thing.

              Also, with Cuba in particular, for many of them it was the family planning law that made Cuba the most LGBT-friendly nation on earth. Like, people who shat on Cuba and derided it as “authoritarian” before that had a sudden change of heart, almost as though it was the first real thing they learned about Cuba and it fucking blew their minds or something.

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      You literally came into a thread where people are dunking on Mussolini and started pissing and crying saying we’re bigots. You made up some wild claims about the people here being anti-lgbtq (lol) in another comment thread; you clearly don’t understand any of our positions and if I had to guess you know all you know about politics from either streamers, clowns, or both.