She looks like she would tell a tale the jedi wouldn’t.
Who are the 26 people who downvoted this good girl? I just want to talk
Seeing mutilated dogs makes lots of people sad
Do you mean the ears?
I don’t think they’ve been cut, she just looks to be holding them in a back facing position.
Oh I didn’t know she was mutilated. I don’t know dogs that well.
I love it when they cross their legs like that… So dainty.
We Rate Dogs is one of the accounts I miss the most from the beforetimes of Twitter ❤️
I don’t have a sandwich, nor do I have ingredients for one. That said, how many and what are her favorite toppings? My local grocery closes in 7 minutes.
Piggy is adorbs
Bully XL? Ewww
I’ll bite (no pun intended): what’s wrong with bully XLs?
Nothing. Just dog racism from someone who believes yellow journalism and alarmist politicians practicing hollow symbol politics.
It’s a fighting breed. Accounts for 1% of dogs in UK yet 44% of dog attacks are by American bully -type dogs. How are stats “yellow journalism”?
Stats without a reliable source aren’t stats.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_Kingdom
“Between 2021 and 2023, around half of fatal dog attacks were caused by a single breed, the American Bully XL”
Gee, that was hard to google
No need to be snarky here. It’s just good practice to provide a source when making claims to statistics. “Just Google it” doesn’t validate a position.
Now that you’ve provided a source, we can talk about the information at hand instead of talking out of our asses.
With the source you’re quoting, and in fact the specific sentence in this Wikipedia article, the sources provided for that claim are 3 news articles and a UK government webpage.
That government web page details the way someone can safely and legally have a dog of these breeds.
With the news reporting, even a cursory glance at those news articles show that there could be reasons other than the biology of the breed in play here.
Asks for sources. When gets source, comes up with any excuse including government figures as to why they’re wrong.
You don’t want source, you just don’t to believe it because you always had that believe that all dogs are good, they just got bad owners. Maybe you’re partly right, owners and training plays a big part, but even with that, these dogs are overwhelming involved in incidents and fatal incidents in the UK despite there being horrible dog owners of every breed.
The allowing these dog breeds was a compromise to try and get the legislation through, but most know these dogs are bred for fighting, and are so strong, they are lethal. Even families who cared for the dogs and loved them well, and one accident, and a child is dead. Ooops. Some dog breeds just ain’t safe.
There’s no such thing as a fighting breed, only dogs that have been abused historically and contemporarily.
As for the statistics, there’s a shitload of factors that skew them that have nothing to do with them being inherently aggressive.
To name a few:
- People are more likely to report an attack by a dog of a breed with a bad reputation.
- People who should never own dogs often choose big and strong ones and don’t train and socialize them properly
- well-meaning but thoughtless people take on dogs without considering the exercise and discipline needs of the breed, leading to acting out
- when a stronger dog DOES attack, it tends to be more serious and thus more likely to be reported
In conclusion: there’s no such thing as an inherently dangerous dog breed, only bad owners who should never have been entrusted with the care of a dog who needs to be trained in ways they (the owners) are unable or unwilling to do.
Fighting breed = Guard breed
A pit bull will guard you with its life. Not only will it, it can.
Other types are:
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Herding Dogs
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Sporting Dogs
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Hound Dogs
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Working Dogs
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Terrier Dogs
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Toy Dogs
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Non-Sporting Dogs
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Companion Dogs (sometimes included within Non-Sporting or Toy groups)
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Mixed-Breed Dogs (not an official group, but commonly recognized)
Guard dogs fall under working dogs
Working dogs = Guarding, Pulling, Rescuing, Sledding, and Service assisting.
Like you said, the reports are probably skewed to some degree, but that doesn’t stop the fact that you’re more likely to get mauled to death by a Pit Bull then say a Shetland Sheepdog.
Pit bulls are both able and willing to guard. They will stand their ground or attack.
Could you train your Pit Bull to always run in a precived danger situation? Maybe. But you have to train it.
In conclusion: there’s no such thing as an inherently dangerous dog breed
only a dog who needs to be trained in ways they (the owners) are unable or unwilling to do.
If you have to train a dog to do something or else it will “naturally” or “inherently” do something different. Then it is naturally or inherently trained to do that thing, “Guard”.
Fighting breed = Guard breed
Do a guard dog equals a fighting dog? Protective equals aggressive? Gtfo with that weak bullshit 🙄
A pit bull will guard you with its life. Not only will it, it can.
If trained to do so. Because of bad owners.
For someone talking a lot about working dogs, you seem utterly clueless about how they BECOME working dogs.
Dogs aren’t machines with certain behaviors hard coded. Some might have generational trauma and/or PTSD from previous owners, but properly trained and socialized dogs EXTREMELY rarely exhibits aggressive behavior and when they do, it’s not caused by being a specific breed.
If you have to train a dog to do something or else it will “naturally” or “inherently” do something different. Then it is naturally or inherently trained to do that thing
That’s a Ben Shapiro sized “let’s say that” 🙄
You don’t have to train a guard breed to not guard any more than you have to train a seventh generation farmer not to farm or he’ll just spontaneously start growing crops.
Do a guard dog equals a fighting dog? Protective equals aggressive? Gtfo with that weak bullshit 🙄
A guard dog DOES not EQUAL a fighting dog. No. But a fighting dog does equal a guard dog.
Gtfo with that weak bullshit 🙄
Good argument point
For someone talking a lot about working dogs, you seem utterly clueless about how they BECOME working dogs.
Do you even know how they BECOME working dogs?
A Shetland Sheepdog doesn’t need to go to doggie college to learn to herd sheep. It is in their nature to chase and get everything together. You put my sheltie in a field of sheep, and he’ll make sure no sheep wanders off.
There is very little training you have to do to get a beagle to hunt rabbits.
Try training a St. Bernard to hunt rabbits…
Dogs aren’t machines with certain behaviors hard coded
Since you said it, it must be true
Some might have generational trauma
So you are saying that past generational experiences can shape a breed? That’s the opposite of what you are trying to argue.
Many studies have been done about aggression in breeding.
One would be The Russian Silver Fox Experiment.
They took wild foxes and tried to domestic them through selective breeding, and they took aggressive foxes and tried to make more aggressive ones.
Turns out that they could do both, make them less aggressive and more aggressive through breeding.
It has been studied a ton in mice and it has been found that aggression is heritable that follows the Mendelian inheritance patterns with genes located on autosomes. That expression of aggressive behavior is influenced by androgens.
So yes, in a way, we, like dogs, are all “machines” with certain “codes”
You don’t have to train a guard breed to not guard any more than you have to train a seventh generation farmer not to farm or he’ll just spontaneously start growing crops.
Oh geez
I’ll ask you this question.
Set up: Pit Bull and Shetland Sheepdog. Both in separate large pits. Gold bars in middle. Food and water is given to both, but no human contact ever.
Which pit would you want to retrieve the gold bar from?
In your mind, it shouldn’t make a difference which pit
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_fighting
Read this to know the history of roughly thirty breeds of dogs that were selectively bred (some over hundreds of years) with the primary goal of being used in fighting.
You are just another of the many people who will happily ignore or hand-wave statistics and historical facts simply because it supports your predefined ideas that your special puppy would never. Until, they do.
Selection bias is running rampant here when interpreting the (partial) statistics around dog attacks and their seriousness.
For example: the dog breed most statistically likely to bite in the UK is the labrador (source). Jack Russels, chihuahas and dachshunds also rate highly in aggression but attacks are mostly unreported because they are rarely serious.
So saying some breeds are more aggressive than others may be true, but that’s only half the picture and the narrative around this discussion misses out that there are more aggressive breeds than bully types.
Bully breeds are strong, and if they attack, the damage can be serious. But the likelihood of them attacking is relatively small, they aren’t more predisposed to attack than the other breeds I’ve mentioned, and their attack response is heavily dependent on how they are trained, socialized and treated. The cases where a well-trained, well-treated and well-socialized bully breed dog is involved in an attack are pretty rare. Where attacks have happened, digging into the background often shows that the dog’s owners had not properly trained or controlled the dog. It is always the owner’s responsibility to care for and keep these dogs safe around others.
Finally, I’d like to say that this community is for appreciating dogs. Not some dogs. It shouldn’t be for berating people about pictures of particular breeds.
Your own source goes on to say Labradors are over-represented because they’re the most popular breed in the UK and the report count is a flat count of incidents, not a breakdown per 10,000 dogs for instance. They also are rarely serious bites so I’m not sure what point you’re making. The issue with dogs bred as fighting breeds is that they’re much more likely to cause catastrophic injury - that’s the whole problem. Nobody cares much if a Dachshund nips someone that stole its bone, they care if a dog mauls their toddler to death - which happens with far too much regularity, and is usually one of just a handful of uncommon dog breeds. Not Labradors, Dachshunds, or Chihuahuas. Pit Bulls and Doberman.
https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-multi-year-fatality-report-2005-2017.php
