To think progressives are dropping the ball, but not the DNC, who has sued 3rd parties off ballots, pushed back as hard as they can against progressives(including spending DNC money against progressives in primaries & running attack ads on 3rd party), certainly is a DNC style take.
To say “not being trump” should be enough is fucking wild. That is the epitome of democracy huh? “You can’t vote for a good candidate, or one that would represent your ideals. You must vote based on who you hate most! You have to support the system that forces this! it is good! and balanced!”
I mean, if you think it’s progressives, the group who actually shows up to vote THE MOST, and who also do tend to vote Dem are to blame then I’m glad the DNC propaganda is working for you I guess.
But like, literal studies have shown progressives show up more %wise to vote than any other group. And also you can look at vote numbers and see left 3rd parties are like 1/3rd the votes of right 3rd parties, showing most progressives do still vote dem. A lot who do not are in places like California where Dems gonna win anyways, or Florida where Dems gonna lose anyways since they literally gave up on Florida since the last Governor election.
Too lazy to find the studies again because I’m busy. You can google it if you don’t believe me I don’t care.
Again, people not showing up to vote is the DNC’s fault for not being a party people want to vote for. If they cannot energize the vote they lose. They have not since Obama. They’ve refused to learn from that because money. They are the ones who are allowing Trump. Not progressives. Progressives control almost nothing. They have no say in the DNC. They cannot stop them from doing stupid bullshit. They’ve tried, but rather than learn and adopt progressive policy from Bernie or 3rd parties the DNC has decided to alienate them as hard as possible including fighting against them. They’ve decided they’re owed their votes anyways so they don’t need to appease them.
What do you want me to say to him? Sorry dems were busy holding back from sentencing Trump so they could run against him? Sorry Biden decided he had to be the nominee after saying he wouldn’t be? Sorry we waited until after primaries to decide he was a horrible choice and then went with someone who decided “I’m gonna do exactly what he was doing”?
Like do you think I want Trump? Because I am criticising the DNC? I am criticising the DNC because they’re the ones fucking up.
I would call pushing back persecution until it is too late so he can run so Biden can say “only I can stop him” and run would be helping Trump a whole lot more than saying the DNC should strive to be a party people want to vote for, but you do you I guess.
Sorry, I tried googling around for the article but there’s so much with that shit that I cannot find it anymore, sorry. Lot of 2021 articles on holding back memo on Mueller report which was I guess a bigger article than a memo that alluded to waiting to persecute him that came out after he already won the election. Whole post got deleted from here, so comment history even did not help.
I don’t have it saved on here anymore because the whole post got deleted.
If I have time later maybe I’ll try and find the article it was on an internal memo or email or something, but Trump plus memo or email is gonna take a lot of searching to find the correct article now.
So maybe when I have time I can try and find that and the studies on progressives voting but I have a busy week and will almost definitely forget to be honest.
To think progressives are dropping the ball, but not the DNC, who has sued 3rd parties off ballots, pushed back as hard as they can against progressives(including spending DNC money against progressives in primaries & running attack ads on 3rd party), certainly is a DNC style take.
To say “not being trump” should be enough is fucking wild. That is the epitome of democracy huh? “You can’t vote for a good candidate, or one that would represent your ideals. You must vote based on who you hate most! You have to support the system that forces this! it is good! and balanced!”
I’ll pass dude.
Is that what you’d say to that guy who is sitting in a jail cell in El Salvador right now?
I’ll pass dude. You’ll just have to wait until I get a candidate I can believe in?
I wish I had that privilege.
I mean, if you think it’s progressives, the group who actually shows up to vote THE MOST, and who also do tend to vote Dem are to blame then I’m glad the DNC propaganda is working for you I guess.
But like, literal studies have shown progressives show up more %wise to vote than any other group. And also you can look at vote numbers and see left 3rd parties are like 1/3rd the votes of right 3rd parties, showing most progressives do still vote dem. A lot who do not are in places like California where Dems gonna win anyways, or Florida where Dems gonna lose anyways since they literally gave up on Florida since the last Governor election.
Too lazy to find the studies again because I’m busy. You can google it if you don’t believe me I don’t care.
Again, people not showing up to vote is the DNC’s fault for not being a party people want to vote for. If they cannot energize the vote they lose. They have not since Obama. They’ve refused to learn from that because money. They are the ones who are allowing Trump. Not progressives. Progressives control almost nothing. They have no say in the DNC. They cannot stop them from doing stupid bullshit. They’ve tried, but rather than learn and adopt progressive policy from Bernie or 3rd parties the DNC has decided to alienate them as hard as possible including fighting against them. They’ve decided they’re owed their votes anyways so they don’t need to appease them.
I guess you don’t have anything to say to that guy.
What do you want me to say to him? Sorry dems were busy holding back from sentencing Trump so they could run against him? Sorry Biden decided he had to be the nominee after saying he wouldn’t be? Sorry we waited until after primaries to decide he was a horrible choice and then went with someone who decided “I’m gonna do exactly what he was doing”?
Like do you think I want Trump? Because I am criticising the DNC? I am criticising the DNC because they’re the ones fucking up.
No, but that doesn’t mean you aren’t helping him.
I would call pushing back persecution until it is too late so he can run so Biden can say “only I can stop him” and run would be helping Trump a whole lot more than saying the DNC should strive to be a party people want to vote for, but you do you I guess.
You got proof anyone ‘pushed back’ the prosecution?
iirc it was the judge Trump put in that did most of the blocking.
So, you want to make up stories? You do you.
Sorry, I tried googling around for the article but there’s so much with that shit that I cannot find it anymore, sorry. Lot of 2021 articles on holding back memo on Mueller report which was I guess a bigger article than a memo that alluded to waiting to persecute him that came out after he already won the election. Whole post got deleted from here, so comment history even did not help.
But here is what I was talking about with research on progressives voting (note they’re called progressive left here): https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/11/09/political-engagement-among-typology-groups/
I don’t have it saved on here anymore because the whole post got deleted.
If I have time later maybe I’ll try and find the article it was on an internal memo or email or something, but Trump plus memo or email is gonna take a lot of searching to find the correct article now.
So maybe when I have time I can try and find that and the studies on progressives voting but I have a busy week and will almost definitely forget to be honest.
He’s not the one helping Trump, you are.