Nintendo somehow keeps finding a way to make this worse

  • Hyphlosion@lemm.ee
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    22 hours ago

    We’re only paying a measly $70 for the Switch 2 version. Just get a third job and be grateful for the opportunity to purchase the DLC at $20. Then you can use the last of your hundred dollar bill for that one tech demo game!

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    1 day ago

    I’ve been a huge Zelda fan since I was a kid, but I played BotW in 2016 and found it playable, but way overrated. Not a 10/10 masterpiece, more like 8/10. I have yet to even bother with TotK. I am also a huge Metroid fan, but Prime 4 seems like just more of the same.

    After playing both KCD and KCD2, for example, Zelda games just seem lacking in depth in comparison. I don’t know, maybe Nintendo is past their prime—either that, or I’ve just played too many of their games and am bored of them now.

    The fact that they seem to be screwing the pooch with their latest console maybe means they’ll stop being arrogant and lower their prices, but I’ll be emulating their games only from now on anyway.

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    2 days ago

    This isn’t even industry standard - charging $10 to “upgrade” a game, yes, but as far as I can remember the DLC is always included with the game at the base game price when it’s been out for a while.

    I hope Nintendo’s extreme arrogance and greed bites them in the ass. Will probably have to wait a year or so after launch to know since I’m sure it will take that long to get Switch 2s to all the diehards with money to burn. I’ll be interested to see how it sells to everyone else.

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        1 day ago

        Yes, they charged for it years ago on the last gen system. This type of rerelease usually includes the DLC in the package so that they can go back to charging full price for a game that’s no longer in the zeitgeist and not worth as much as a brand new game.

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    2 days ago

    I’ve never rapidly lost so much interest in an electronic as fast as the switch 2 reveal to seeing the game prices a few hours later

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      2 days ago

      I knew it was over as soon as they said the tech demo is a paid title

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        2 days ago

        100% this was the moment for me. By no means should they be charging any amount for an FAQ on how to use the product.

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          2 days ago

          Bravo to the one pal who’s gonna buy it and post a gameplay on YouTube

    • yeehaw@lemmy.ca
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      2 days ago

      If they released it about the same price, backwards compatible, maybe small fee to “upgrade” a switch game to the newer version, I might have been tempted. But seriously meh. I’m playing my physical copy backlog on my steam deck now lol

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    2 days ago

    I think Nintendo thinks they have so much nostalgia, and loyal customers, that this generation they really said “fuck it” and are twisting the knife to see how much the consumer will tolerate. I’m not going to be surprised if we see price drops and actual sales (not 10 bucks off a 5 year old game like they usually do) by the time holidays role around. I don’t think they are anticipating the pushback that is happening.

  • nfreak@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Nintendo’s really making it easier and easier to not buy the $500 Metroid Prime mouse control box.

  • yeehaw@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    Ya not sure if I’ll ever get a switch 2. I played the living shit out of my switch 1. Easily was my favourite console… Until I got a steam deck. Instantly I have over 1,000 games purchased already and a hefty percentage of them playable.

    …not to mention the switch games that are still sitting on my shelf that I just play on here instead.

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    2 days ago

    Don’t worry. Super fans will still defend it. They’ve been using the “but but but but” strategy lately

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      21 hours ago

      I’m not at all defending the price, but am secretly hoping this outcry will make it easier for me to be an early adopter. I still don’t have a PS5 due to how burned I got trying to preorder one.

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      2 days ago

      I’m a big fan but I’m not stupid. This is some horseshit.

      I have both DLCs and I didn’t expect this garbage. Really bad stuff.

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        I have both DLCs

        So then you still get to play them. The only people this affects are new buyers, which… scans internet will be approximately nobody, given the raging hate-boners on display. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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      2 days ago

      I will get it and play MKW but…

      Yeah no I can’t justify getting too many games for it. Will probably just have World and MAYBE DK Bananza

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          When I hit 360 hours in BotW, I asked myself, was this worth a dollar an hour? Yes, yes it was. That was almost 8 years ago, and doesn’t take into account time spent playing other games, or the 7+ years of playtime since.

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            $/h is a shitty metric. Some hours are more enjoyable than others, and also time is a resource we spend, just like money, not something we’re gaining, so it taking time is a negative. Enjoyment/$ is the metric to use, or maybe (enjoyment/h)/$.

            $/h is a marketing term. It isn’t a term consumers should bother with. It’s what has lead to boring over-inflated games that waste your time doing things that don’t matter and aren’t fun.

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              22 hours ago

              Enjoyment/$ is the metric to use, or maybe (enjoyment/h)/$.

              Or, as I stated, “worth the money.” I’m not interested in turning it into a hard formula, universally transferable. As you noted, there’s too many variables. I was stating that the money was well spent. That’s it.

              • Cethin@lemmy.zip
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                20 hours ago

                OK, but you didn’t say that. You said worth the $/h, which is a common metric people use but is less than worthless.

                $/h is useful because it isa universally transferable measure. Enjoyment is not, but is actually what we care about.

                I’m just trying to work to remove $/h as something people discuss, because it’s ruined so many games.

            • MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net
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              21 hours ago

              Different strokes for different folks. I’ve been playing MK8 for 9ish years on two systems. I don’t expect World to be a step backwards, but it could happen.

              I may have bought a Switch at launch solely for BotW (even though I had a Wii U), but that’s not the only game I played, even if was the only game I owned for a bit. More games came later. Anyone saying “I’m only going to buy one game” is basing that off of what’s available at launch. More games will come later, at which point people will make their value decisions.

              People are losing their shit about Nintendo bumping prices for the first time in several gaming generations. Broad declarations of “never, not me, I won’t!” There seems to be a large overlap between the most vocal and the following two groups:

              • Happy with your Steam Deck? Great! I’m glad another actual gaming company (Valve) has entered the hardware space. (For MS and Sony, gaming is just one part of their enormous portfolios.) Nintendo doesn’t interest Deck folks. That’s fine. I can’t play first person or close third person games, and never liked RTS-style click as fast as you can games, so PC gaming has never been my thing. The impressive Steam library doesn’t do much for me. That’s fine. We all have options. Great!

              • People that just pirate their shit? Great! Piracy always has and always will exist. Companies have always fought back against it, and always will. Getting around those barriers is part of the scene. Remember when Sony lost in court against Connectix, then bought VGS just to kill it? I do. I was an adult at the time, and played a lot of THPS using a shitty USB gamepad on my computer. The world kept turning. Games are still free for those that want them enough.

              The thing those groups have in common? Neither of them were all that likely to buy anything Nintendo. But any unfavorable news makes them come out of the woodwork to declare that they’re not going to buy any of it even harder. Great! Just totally irrelevant. It’s the latest chapter in the long running saga of the console wars. It’s never been a good story, but does it ever have staying power. Yay tribalism.

        • Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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          1 day ago

          Yesn’t. Gift from the family since it comes out on my day. Just not looking the horse in the mouth

          • Cethin@lemmy.zip
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            1 day ago

            Why not ask them for something else, unless they really want you to have that device in particular for some reason.

  • spicystraw@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I got a hunch that the team behind prepping the game for new hardware just didn’t have enough time to polish the port for DLC as well.

    The outrageous prices are provably set by sales and/ or upper management anyway.

    I kind of don’t get the urge for buying BotW on switch 2 if you alredy have it on original. Why not save your money on new games to play that are coming for thw system?