• jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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    6 days ago

    There are reasons subtlety and body language evolved.

    Some men don’t take direct “Not interested. Please leave me alone” well. They’ll call you a [slur, slur] and maybe get violent. But fake laughter and dead-ending the conversation has lead to safer outcomes.

    So, yeah, it sucks people can’t be direct and honest, but it’s not just coming out of malice.

    Also a lot of the time people don’t really know what they want, or want contradictory things.

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      6 days ago

      I understand the excuses people make to not act like mature adults.

      I’m sorry if men were rude to you, them acting like children doesn’t give you a pass.

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        It’s not acting like children. It’s acting like adults. Most adults use subtlety for a variety of reasons. Personal safety and letting someone down gently are just two that come to mind.

        You can want everyone to have a standard API with nice json output, but that’s just not how humans are. Expecting it is folly.

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          6 days ago

          Giving peolple the wrong “hints” because they are completely subjective is a childish thing to do in place of communication.

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            My fellow sapient, do you engage with real people in the world? Your position has merit in a “imagine a frictionless, spherical cow for this physics problem” kind of sense, but is absolutely unrelated to the real world of humanity the entire time we’ve existed, and probably going back to earlier primates as well.

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              I talk to people every day.

              It’s not acceptable to hit on people who are trying to do their errands or their jobs.

              There are acceptable places to meet people (bars, clubs, dating events)

              Do not target women and approach them to try to fuck them in public when they are minding their own buisness please.

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                6 days ago

                Those are true statements, but seem to be a whole other topic from what we were talking about. You were rejecting the ideas of body language and subtlety by saying that’s asking for mind reading and childish.

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                  6 days ago

                  People can not read body language, you shouldn’t assume anything based on body language ever.

                  I bet you’re one of those people who also push the definitons of consent and equality.

                  Im done giving you attention troll. I hope no woman has to suffer you stalking and trying to fuck them in public when they are just trying to exist.

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                    6 days ago

                    You are making some wild assumptions about me. At no point did I ever say it was appropriate to engage women who are just living their lives in public. In fact, in the post you’re replying to, I said I agreed with you.

                    Body language has been a part of humanity since before modern humans existed. You can tell, I hope, the difference between a frown and a smile.