Why does it feel that the evil sides globally are winning. Even evil people are winning. Why?

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    1 hour ago

    I just talked to my superior about the most urgent thing EU countries are facing currently. I should add that he is 100% disabled but studied in CS and reads everything which is interesting to him and his world view.

    When I said that social media dictates the discussions and the media, we agreed on the thought after a short period.

    And if we could solve this issue we mostlikely would get awarded a noble price.

    What I am trying to say: Social media is run by - at least - flawed people. And used by the evil ones to their maximum, putting the honest Ones into a position to explain.

    We are loosing our discourse, we are mixing our cultures - or we split at our ethics.

    Social media is a cancer with no current treatment. Civilians will be in favor of social media since it also benefits society directly. But we are diminishing other things with it.

    Maybe there will be one more brilliant mind educated who may aid us in these times.

    • rumba@lemmy.zip
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      IMHO, It’s the algorithm that’s the real devil.

      For a long time, it was us against the bots and the companies. But we no longer know what’s being given to us because it matches versus what’s being given to us because they’re paying for it to be seen.

      The danger is the algorithm gives us a steady stream of what we appear to want. It’s serotonin. Then it’s weaponized. There’s no appreciable difference between the ads, the propaganda, the creators honest content and the creators paid content. We’re getting echo chambers of what we want and paid advertisements to sure that up.

      People see it on Facebook and TikTok and just take it as read that what’s being presented is truth. Even the ones that are savvy to bias end up getting swept along with the tide.

      The only way to stop this is to demand disinformation and fact-checking. But instead of that, everyone seems to be hell-bent on knocking out private conversation where we might be able to communicate and are being forced to rely solely on whatever the algorithm allows us.

  • edric@lemm.ee
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    1 hour ago

    The information age of the internet grew too fast before humans could get an actual sense of the repercussions, and it was just a matter of time for the greedy people in power all over the world to use it to their advantage.

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    4 hours ago

    My theory is “shallow thinking” and “busy-ness”. We are prone to mental and expedient shortcuts which seem benign at the small scale in which we interact, but when aggregated become something terrible… and on the exceedingly rare chance that we might hear an actual solution, it either sounds so foreign to us that we cannot consider it, or so hopeless a fight that the super-majority of people do not push back.

    Consider how slippery the slope is for even one aspect (diffuse responsibility):

    • Alice needs help
    • Bob sees that Alice needs help
    • Bob excuses himself from being the one to help (not prepared, wasn’t expecting, other obligations, could be a trap, others are better suited to help, the government ought to help)
    • Bob excuses himself from being the one to get help (I don’t have the number handy, someone else will call, she probably already called someone for help)

    Conceptually, this is fine if it is ONLY “Bob”, but the deceptive part is how finite the procedural gap is between Bob being one person and it literally being everyone… thus Alice gets no help.

  • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 hours ago

    You are more informed in how shitty the world have always been.

    Also the decades from the 90s to the 10s were probably a small golden age that has already ended.

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      4 hours ago

      I study history a lot, also I’m older so I have the perspective of two or three generations now.

      Things have normally been not the idealized concept of Disney princess goodness in government. Evil shits normally have been doing stuff for as long as civilization has existed. So all this is not new.

      What is new, and makes this newsworthy, is the masks have fallen off. Those masks and idealized fantasy much of the population indulges in took decades, generations to build up. In many ways this is a very rude culture shock.

      The other reason this is important now is the climate is rapidly collapsing while the trade systems have reached unprecedented complexity. So a group of particularly thuggish people rising to power in several nations at once, as they tend to do with regularity. May have epic and disastrous consequences! It’s a really bad time for this to happen

    • Shizrak@sh.itjust.works
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      4 hours ago

      Evil is willing to lie, cheat, steal, and kill to win. As long as good keeps fighting with one hand tied behind its back, evil will keep gaining ground.

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        28 minutes ago

        It’s less that good has one hand tied behind its back, and more that good is fighting with a sword while evil brought an attack helicopter

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          Well, I think it’s more that we’ve spent decades building up cultural narratives of good that emphasize heroes who win through proselytizing, converting, and redeeming villains rather than just fucking stomping them. “If I do a bad thing for the right reason, I’m just as bad”, etc. In media, it works out because cosmic justice steps up to do what the hero won’t if the villain refuses to relent. In reality, it means that you get tut-tutted and told that the most you can do to stop ecocide and mass murder is peacefully protesting in such a way as not to even upset or inconvenience anyone, and it’ll all come right if you’re in the right. You might as well just go yell into a closet for all the good it’ll do, ofc.

  • ehpolitical@lemmy.ca
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    3 hours ago

    There’s a season for everything, even for evil, but it won’t last forever.

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    5 hours ago

    My opinion on this generally boils down to that the system has been set up to reward evil/antisocial behavior, and this part of the system is so entrenched and well established and organized that it has not been effectively and completely toppled or eradicated in so long, it has been able to consolidate power and resources to a point where very few extremely evil people are personally in charge of so much of what happens that it seeps into everything. Actually “seeps” is the wrong word, it’s injected into everything. It’s like has been said many times in recent memory, the cruelty is the point.

    For a simplified example, evil executives reward evil behavior by their managers, who in turn punish their employees, who lose control of so much of their lives to these companies and managers that they end up hurting their families and friends out of confusion and anger and other complex emotional reactions, and harm is perpetuated in every area of life.

    It’s self sustaining, and even worse it replicates itself. In some ways I think of these systems as viruses. Also as cults. We all buy in to some degree.

  • the_q@lemm.ee
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    3 hours ago

    “Evil” had always been winning. It just seems worse now because it’s finally effecting us.

  • goofus@lemmy.today
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    5 hours ago

    We are entering a major transition period, with many technological changes happening to disrupt the existing economy. One of the most important is the transition from fossil fuels to renewable energy.

    For hundreds of years, the energy economy has been a system where certain countries and companies controlled the locations on earth where fossil fuels are located, and had the technology to process the fuels. Fossil fuels by their nature require the user to buy “feedstock” as they go. The countries and companies that control fossil fuel production profit from this system and are some of the wealthiest groups in the world.

    Renewable energy systems, such as solar, wind and batteries, require an upfront payment for the equipment. The cost of equipment for renewable energy is dropping every year. They can be located almost everywhere. There is no ongoing feedstock payment. Renewables break the fossil fuel industry model, and some of the wealthiest people in the world are scrambling to control governments to somehow retain their income flow. Currently their strategy is to delay implementation of renewables, but eventually they will try to create monopolies where they control the source of power and charge the customer about the same as they are paying now, with the utilities benefitting from the low cost of renewable power.

    This is only one of the transitions happening at this time. There are many major disruptions coming from implementing AI in the economy, from electric vehicles and self-driving vehicles. There are probably many more transitions that no one is predicting or even imagining at this time. You can expect things to be crazy for a decade or more as these technologies change the way our economy, infrastructure and society is shaped.

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      and fossil fuels, that continued “subscription” model, is a massive incentive for war and disrupting competing suppliers. Solar does require copper (distribution) and sand plus a bit of silver, batteries just lithium phosphate and iron, and all of these are relatively abundant (sodium as lithium replacement even more abundant). More importantly, once you’ve bought your solar and batteries, you have fuck you energy: secure and independent.

      War on Russia was a last grasp effort to keep diesel refining at maximum capacity, and attempt to capture Europe’s NG supply. Doesn’t matter how much Biden loved US O&G, he wasn’t going to be loved back.

      • goofus@lemmy.today
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        Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was a last ditch effort to recapture former Soviet territory before its oil and gas resources lose economic value.

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          Simply not credible. Russia has enough drilling sites available to it to serve decades of demand. It set clear reasonable red lines to avoid an invasion, and investing in developing resources on contested land is an extra, unnecessary, risk that makes such investment uneconomic. It is grossly unfair to impute imperialist objective to Russia’s special military operation which was purely to prevent rabid NATO expansionist evil.

          Except for this war, global oil/liquid fuel demand is declining. But use in the war is just a massive, at least 3% of global diesel use, nevermind the terrorist attacks on refineries/depots/supplies. US aligned nations have simply wanted this war more than Russia all along, and it is unfair to fantasize Russian resource expansion as an objective.

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            It is surprising how weak Russia actually is. At this point just about any other nation could come in and wipe out the Russian government.

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            How many NATO countries are former Warsaw Pact that begged and clamored to join quickly after the USSR dissolved? Why did Finland and Sweden finally decide to join NATO?

            If not Ukraine, maybe someone from Georgia, Chechnya, Moldova, or Tajikistan could explain it to you.

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              Propaganda and hatred is a perfectly valid explanation. Georgia escaped stupidity this year despite propaganda objectives. Moldova succeeded in stupidity. Doesn’t make Russophobia smart, or an objective good, just because it exists.

          • PlasticExistence@lemmy.world
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            It is grossly unfair to impute imperialist objective to Russia’s special military operation which was purely to prevent rabid NATO expansionist evil.

            And you’re blocked. What a moron.

  • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
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    It’s a global far right power grab fueled by money from Russia using weaponized disinformation. It’s been going on for decades at a smaller scale before Facebook, etc, even existed. It’s also fueled by conservative dark money groups funded by conservative billionaires. You should read the book Dark Money, I highly recommend it.

    Even the antivax stuff is from Russia and it way predates the big platforms. It was started in the crunchy mom communities on Livejournal, where they first experimented with seeing if westerners would glom on to weird mommy trends like not using shampoo, nursing your kids to ridiculous ages, “unassisted birth”, which is where people deliver babies without any medical care at all, “unschooling”, etc. That took off in a big way and then they began with the antivax stuff, and used Livejournal as a tool of Russian government propaganda.

    Then they started funding white supremacist groups, and the groups like the yellow vests, Moms for Liberty, etc. Really recommend learning about dark money and Russian weaponized disinformation.

    • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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      It’s pretty convienient how all bad things stem from a single, external source, preventing the need for any sort of internal societal reckoning. How fortunate that we were born on the good guys’ side and all we need to do is focus on our states’ geopolitical enemies, and if they can be kept in check, it’ll solve every one of our domestic issues, upto and including old wives tales.

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        I don’t think I’m saying that at all, just that this is where it stems from and that Republicans and their supporters have glommed onto it. Obviously I’m saying it’s multifaceted.

        • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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          Do you have any sort of evidence that connects the Russian government to things like not using shampoo?

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    If you did not understand that the US was the evil force in the world all along, then your new feeling is mostly based on the previous internalization that countries resisting US evil were the evil ones, and that the US now picking wars on allies that it can easily win, and giving up on wars it cannot win. Colonial rulerships supporting US evil, were also deeply explicitly evil and subjugating their people’s prosperity with disinformation and subjugation.

    Inside the US, Zionist first rule was always a factor, but never as important as last election cycle. Oligarchy/media siding with the most zionist candidate, is simply ensuring the naked totalitarianism we must now endure. That the US has shifted the targets of its evil, does not change its nature. Replacing Presidential subjugation of allies with CIA subversive control of allies may not be as effective in force multiplication of evil, but it is just breaking your previous feelings/geopolitical illusions of “good”/values based alliances.

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    Because the return of massive wealth disparity - similar to having kings again - has allowed those with money and power to bend the world in the direction of some form of dictatorship, whether it be fascism, oligarchy, whatever…. The New Kings are carving up society and want to increase control and profit, and an authoritarian governance is the way to do it. Just like how they treat their corporations. They are dictators, the little people are disposable production units to feed their machine.

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    Why does it feel like evil is winning globally?

    Propaganda works.

    We are now innundated with it. And the answer is not “anti-propaganda” although sometimes that helps a little.

    The answer is everyone needs to learn how media works; How words and images and sounds form the world.

    And to do that requires the help of media corporations.

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    Unpopular opinion, but in the west particularly, folk have mistaken writing on the internet for action.

    Tweeting resistance rather than performing it.

    A lapse into inaction framed as radical rest and self care.

    Online they are fierce warriors of justice, offline they go to work in Starbucks, use their apple devices to talk to their families and enjoy the treadmill of streaming services.

    And this isn’t to blame them. This is the point of consumerist capitalism. To trap you in a gilded cage.

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      That would make sense except when you realize this is new media and is exactly how the right is warping minds. Elon didn’t buy Twitter because he was bored. We cannot concede all social media to the right and until there is a platform that can’t be bought the people won’t ever have a voice.

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      This is why I’ve stopped reading much of the content I had been reading before. Unless an article is about what someone is doing to stop what is happening, what is the point in reading it? I don’t care so much about the bad, rather in how the rest of us are preventing it.

      For all the people complaining, I haven’t seen many talking about what steps they are taking to change the momentum. I get why I’ve may not want to announce what protests they are attending, but I haven’t noticed much new talk about mutual aid or volunteering efforts. I know the recent political climate globally is motivating me to be involved in both.

      I’m waiting to hear back in a volunteer position helping local wildlife, and once I get that schedule worked out, I’ve already started looking into local food aid opportunities as well.

      If our society is leaving gaps unfilled, as you said, it’s up to us to fill them ourselves before we all fall through.

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        Exactly I budget and limit my time online to get specific kinds of information.

        What kinds of information?

        Where and when. I will make time to be there.

        It’s time for good people to do some association too.

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      Well observed. People pour a lot of energy into political actions. The question is what that energy gets used on.