• T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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    Good thing the white house is a reliable and trustworthy source! No one there would ever lie.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldOP
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      Exactly. As the article says:

      In a post on X Thursday night, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said, “The Trump Administration arrested 538 illegal immigrant criminals including a suspected terrorist, four members of the Tren de Aragua gang, and several illegals convicted of sex crimes against minors.” Tren de Aragua is a violent gang that started in Venezuela and has now started to spread into the U.S. It became something of a flashpoint during the presidential campaign.

      Leavitt gave no further details about the arrests.

      They tried to raid an elementary school in Chicago and the school told them to fuck off, so I’m thinking they aren’t going after dangerous criminals unless there’s some sort of nefarious criminal element amongst the Barbie and Hot Wheels crows.

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        These people’s existence is considered a crime by the right so when they say criminals it doesn’t really mean anything anymore

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        Tren de Aragua became a flashpoint based on a lie. No apartment buildings were taken over by them. There was only like one dude actually in the gang.

      • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        It’s becoming increasingly clear that they know exactly how much what they’re doing is going to hurt and terrorize people, and that they’re “flooding the zone with shit” to keep people off balance and terrified.

        I said it the other day and I am going to say it again. Naomi Klein’s Shock Doctrine matters here. This is the last of the tools of the Iraq War come home to the US. This is Trump’s “Shock and Awe” campaign directed at American citizens. He is trying to shock us into confusion and submission, and when I say “he” I rather mean the architects of Project 2025.

        A short film about the book featuring author Naomi Klein.

        Shock wears off, and if you know what’s happening, you can help prevent shock.

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          This is off-topic, but I recently found out that Naomi Klein has a book called Doppelganger all about how she is constantly mistaken for Naomi Wolf and what a fuckhead Naomi Wolf is. I need to get a copy.

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      total bullshit. as usual.

      there’s no fucking way this asshole and this administration misses a photo op… and what better than ‘hundreds’ and ‘hundreds more’ brown people chained together being led onto planes.

      • T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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        I know what you’re saying, but to them, the only thing better than hundreds and hundreds of brown people chained together being led onto planes is hundreds of thousands of brown people chained together being pushed into a ditch

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    A few excerpts and thoughts,

    In a post on X Thursday night, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said, “[A bunch of unverifiable bullshit].” …

    Leavitt gave no further details about the arrests.

    Until we have any kind of information that could be cross referenced against independent systems (e.g. names of the deported, court case file number, flight registration numbers, etc.) it’s impossible to know what happened. They definitely want to hurt as many migrants as possible but they also have a strong incentive to exaggerate everything they’re actually able to do.

    Meanwhile, a defense official said [continues below]

    Why not use their name? Would be helpful for your readers to see things they’ve said and done in the past to know if they’re a trustworthy source. And also to avoid general confusion, like -

    [continued from above] there were two flights overnight. Both went to Guatemala, according to two sources, and carried 81 deportees. [continues below]

    Did the two sources confirm the flights went to Guatemala or that they had 81 migrants on it? Are those two sources the same people as “a defense official” from the prior sentence and “a Guatemalan official” in the next sentence?

    [continued from above] However, a Guatemalan official said 79 Guatemalans had been returned, 31 women and 48 men.

    So was that a simple administrative slip up or did somebody murder two migrants mid-flight and dump their bodies in the ocean? I wouldn’t put that past the Pinochet fans running things today.

    Three officials say the plan to use military aircraft for the deportation flights was approved under the Trump administration, not the Biden administration.

    Are these three different officials than the previously mentioned officials? Are we taking the word of someone who couldn’t get the details about how many people were on this plane right?

    The flights are part of the actions the acting secretary of defense announced on Wednesday following Mr. Trump’s executive action ordering the U.S. military to step up its presence on the border.

    FFS CBS, acting secretary of defense Robert Salesses. It’s almost like you don’t want these stories to come up when somebody searches the names of the people involved in a few years when they want to see what their commencement speaker or new board member or boss or whatever used to do.

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    It seems that in 2024 with Biden the average was 721 illegals per day being flown out, and today it’s 538 and it is ThE BiGgEst wAvE EvEr