*edited post title to make it clear that this is a joke

  • CoolMatt@lemmy.ca
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    I’d just turn around and leave without paying and leave what ever it is I was gonna buy right there at the counter

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      Bro if there’s a website to share this feedback.

      I was just at a restaurant where it was 20%, 30%, or 40% tip, and Custom.

      Food was good but fuck that, I’m done.

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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            I wish that worked…

            I also wish I could charge businesses for my time dealing with their BS. For example, I needed to go down to the bank to open a new account because they couldn’t identify me, but when I showed up, there were no bankers present. So I made an appointment, and still had to wait for a banker. Or when I had to wait on hold for half an hour just to cancel a credit card because there’s no way to do that online (and they have no branches), and they do that just to have a chance at convincing me to keep it.

            If companies can charge me a fee for “maintenance” or “convenience” or whatever, surely I should be able to charge them a reasonable per-instance inconvenience fee (i.e. my hourly rate at my job, or what I’d charge for contract work).

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    Over the last six months or so, I haven’t tipped once in any establishment whatsoever. I decided it was a cancerous practice and people deserve to be paid what they’re due.

    so you just go out and eat without tipping

    No, I haven’t been out to eat in over six months.

    • Ricky Rigatoni@lemm.ee
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      When we say we’re against tipping people really say “then don’t eat at restaurants” as if that isn’t the best thing we can do for ourselves financially. By not paying restaurant prices I only give myself more money.

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    If I’m talking to a cashier instead of putting my card on the table, I haven’t been provided a service that warrants tipping.

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      Exactly, which is why I almost never tip. I’ll occasionally leave a tip at Dominos or something if they were prompt in finding my pizza while being really slammed w/ orders, but there’s no way it’s getting anywhere close to what I’d tip at a place where I’m actually being served.

      I’ll occasionally leave a cash tip in a jar at a counter order place if the staff were helpful in some way (or the food was especially good), but that’s also pretty rare.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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    If this became real, it wouldn’t affect me and I’m introverted and near mute in public. I already do this with the “would you like to round up to donate” bullshit. I only have problems saying “no” if it will possibly hurt a person’s feelings; idgaf about the feelings of a business.

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      idgaf about the feelings of a business.

      Fair enough, but you should know that the money you donate by rounding up doesn’t in any way benefit the business. It’s your donation and iirc you could even technically write it off your own taxes (doubt it’s worth the hassle though)

      Also the thing about tips is that it will unfortunately hurt peoples feelings because at least in some places they probably earn below minimum wage. It’s absolutely bullshit, but not participating isn’t the perfect solution it might seem

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        Not strictly true. CVS, a US retailer, announced they would be donating $10 million to a charity and would be supporting the charity via customer round-up prompts as well.

        In reality, they were including the customer donations in the $10 million, so anything customers donated saved them money.

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          It doesn’t really save them money, it just means they can report that number and get a public pat on the back. I highly doubt they were planning on donating that money w/o customer donations, they likely looked at past donations and figured this was a safe number to go for.

          Donating through one of those prompts doesn’t help or hurt the company in any meaningful way, other than allowing the company to take credit for your donation (not on taxes, just on public statements).

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      It should be set at 18%, 20%, and 25% with no option for tipping less.

      You are, in essence, giving corporations a 18-25% discount on wages.

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        Exactly. Which would make this theoretical POS even more consumer unfriendly then OP’s 2%, 4%, and 6% choices.

        More people might be inclined to tell the cashier to remove the tip when it’s higher, but if it only shows percentages then people might be inclined to just hit the smallest one instead of doing the math to figure out how much they’re tipping.

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          Yeah, I’m guessing OP is in Europe or something where tipping is much less common, because those tipping numbers make no sense from an American/Canadian perspective where tipping is absolutely a thing. Square POS terminals already prompt for 15%, 18%, and 20% or whatever, even for counter-order, so I don’t know why this picture dropped the amount so much.

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    POS systems including tip requests really piss me off. We recently discovered a great local restaurant and we order food from them (and pick it up, to take home) a few times a month. They have one of those POS systems and it really irritates me to have to tap ‘No Tip’ in plain view of the cashier every time. We’re picking up food; I’m walking up to a counter, collecting a bag, swiping a credit card and leaving. Why the fuck would I tip for that? I don’t tip at the grocery store and cashiers there do the same amount of work.

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      As a bartender, if someone is picking up a to go order it’s expected that they won’t tip.

      Most places mark Togo orders such that the staff aren’t tipping out on them (for obvious reasons) so it shouldn’t make a difference to the worker that they didn’t get a tip on it.

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          If an owner is taking the tips owed to the employee that’s illegal. Most places have a tip share suggested policy. At my place the kitchen gets 10% of food sales as a tip… Typically whether or not the customer has chosen to actually tip.

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      Why the fuck would I tip for that?

      Because many restaurants split tips with the back end, and, well, somebody made the food.

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        Sure, and theoretically that’s covered by the price that was listed on the menu. If it’s not, it’s the restaurant’s problem, not mine. Fuck that noise, seriously.

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          it’s the restaurant’s problem, not mine

          But you’re supporting the restaurant. You’re keeping the system afloat.

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            I’m supporting the restaurant by eating there, and paying menu prices for food. If they need me to pay more, they can raise their menu prices. I’m not going to guess how much things actually cost.

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              spot on. I’ve had enough of tipping. I have gone out to eat and anywhere i get service so much less this past year, but it has been worth it. I’ve saved money and sparked interesting conversations with people in my circle when I bring tipping up. this is a weird hill for me to die on, but I do not care anymore.

              how about a discount from the restaurant because I was polite to my servers and was not a disruptive customer? no, because that doesnt make any sense lol

              tipping has creeped its way into everything and has turned us against each other for a batshit insane concept that should have never been normalized.

              if they want more money, charge more money. this guilt trip at the end of the bil they force upon me at the end of my meal is just so insane. they’re just asking me to give them more money for no reason, full stop.

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            Tips keep the system afloat. The reason there aren’t mass strikes demanding an end to tips is because the system works for most.

            Sure, racial minorities are significantly discriminated against and many will receive hardly minimum wage with tips but the majority of tipped workers is fine with it. And that’s all that is required for an unjust system to persist.

            • KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
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              Tipped workers are fine with it because they make more money with tips than they would on hourly wages. This is directly the fault of people feeling the need to tip egregious amounts. If people stopped tipping, or started tipping significantly worse, tipped workers would stop being okay with it really fast, and would demand an end to the system.

              If I go sit down in a restaurant and get table service, I tip, but I do that once a year, maybe. If I get delivery, I tip the driver. But I will absolutely not tip if I go into a restaurant, pick up food at the counter, and walk out. Never.

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                I’m confused why you draw the line there but not in the first two examples. In all your examples, those people are doing their jobs that they should be getting paid adequately for already.

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                  I don’t like being waited on; it makes me uncomfortable, even when it’s someone’s job to do it, and I alleviate that discomfort by tipping them for it. When I put myself in that situation I feel like I’m being lazy (“I could pick this up myself, but instead I’m having someone do it for me”), and it feels appropriate that I should pay more for the privilege of being lazy. The tip is my way of saying “Sorry you’re having to do this.” It’s silly, I know it is, but you asked, so there’s your answer.

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        Restaurants need to pay their staff a living wage instead of expecting patrons to subsidize the owners’ greed.

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          It’s also a matter of trust … we’re handing off money to a restaurant that will pass on the amount to the employee or employees … who decides who gets it? do they share it? do just the waiters get it? does the owner get a cut? do the kitchen staff get some? is it shared equally? Do they add up everything at the end of the day? end of the week? end of a shift?

          Some places are good and fair with distributing tips but some places aren’t and no one ever gets to know what any one does with the funds.

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            This happens a lot, often tips are stolen from immigrant workers by the restaurant. I was at an Indian place and the guy I was with knew our server. I already had my suspicions about the place so I just asked the guy if he gets his tips. He says the owner takes all tips.

            He ended up standing with his back to me so I could put $10 in his hand. Fucking absurd.

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          To the owners. Do… do you not know how private businesses operate?

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            That’s it, you sure got me, I don’t know how businesses operate. Do you?

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        The costs of goods and overhead like employee wages should be included in the price. Raise your prices to what they apparently should be instead of begging your clientele to help give your employees a living wage out of the goodness of our hearts. Such a system only punishes the considerate by milking them of their cash (likely more than they wouldnif your prices were corrected) and rewards the assholes by artificially deflating their prices.

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          I worked in the kitchen of 2 restaurants in college and got no tips, only a low hourly wage. Also quit both jobs without giving a fuck because they sucked.

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      Usually it isn’t the store pushing this, but Square itself. They take a percentage of each transaction so they naturally want to make the charges as high as possible.

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          As someone who uses square at our business, you can indeed customize it a little bit. Though I’ve never seen the “talk to a cashier button.” Ours says custom tip where someone can place a zero $$ tip as well.

          But to the point of square taking a cut… The entire amount (including tip) has a percentage taken by square… So they do want you to have as big a transaction as possible because they make more money.

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        Oh thanks for clarifying this. I thought Square as in “don’t be a square” and POS for well, “piece of shit”.

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    I’m so used to telling homeless folks I have no money that I’m pretty sure I can look the barista or whoever straight in the eye and say “No tip.”

    Actually kind of fucked society pushes us to that point, huh?

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      I really almost never have cash on me anymore so my soul is unburdened. I sometimes do charitable acts but it rarely involves giving money to people on street corners. That’s just a 9 to 5 for a bunch of them.

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        I always carry cash, but it’s in unreasonable denominations (usually $100 and a $50), and it’s only there “just in case” (i.e. lost my phone and need a cab home, and my credit cards aren’t working). There’s no way I’m giving $50 to a homeless person, I’d rather donate to a local shelter instead.

        That said, if I have the time, I’ll offer to take them to get some fast food. They can tell me about their life story, and I know they can’t use my money to buy drugs.

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    POS: “Please tell the cashier.”

    Me to the cashier: “This place needs to pay you a living wage. Let me know if you and your coworkers need help setting up a union.”