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For the Trump v Biden Debate we have around 200 users chatting. For the Trump v Kamala Debate we had around 160 users. I’m not sure how many people will be interested in the VP debate.
I am playing it on this channel because the other channel uses peertube, which can potentially share your IP address to other users. This channel will not have peertube.
I will have news commentary playing in the channel before the debate and potentially after the debate as well.
Walz coming out of the gate with uncritical support for Israel’s right to start World War 3. Absolute Joy Reich shit.
Yeah gonna get a lot of ammo for dealing with him after this I think. He finally has to say stuff out loud
I laughed out loud at the insanity of that first question tbh. “Would you support a preemptive strike on Iran? You have two minutes.”
Real Amerikkkan question for sure.
“your weird sir”, I say as I support genocide.
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I can’t take this any more. They’re just arguing over who can more efficiently implement a fascist vision for America. Fuck this place.
JD just said he wanted to decommodify housing
fuckyoufuckyoufuckyou!
Love how dems will just straight up lie in front of everyone and we’re considered crazy for not believing them.
Waltz said the same thing and I definitely don’t believe his ass either.
“Politicians are all liars”
“Yes”
“Harris, Waltz, Biden and the other Dems are all career politicians”
“Sure”
“Therefore, the Democrats are also liars”
“You’re just a Russian bot who wants Trump to win”
I am accused of being a Russian bot every day all day on lemmy.world. lmao
Imagine thinking the bots are bothering with Lemmy, lol
And the only bots I’ve seen have been DNC ones tbh
Not only that, we are considered trolls for not believing them. lol
having both candidates be able to form coherent sentences kinda takes the fun out of it huh
Yeah they’re being all polite and shit. I stopped listening once it was clear this would be boring.
I’ve finally reached the point at which I understand enough about politics to not pay attention to politics.
god i wish that was me
Bourgeois electoralism is just an abstraction of a portion of and within the hemisphere of bourgeois politics, as opposed to the hemisphere of proletarian politics, of what politics is in its whole form and motion; in the interdependent unity-and-struggle of and between these two interconnected-and-opposing hemispheres along and between this ‘equatorial’ line, that is along and between the class divisions defined by the social relationships to the means of production and subsistence, and their superstructural representations.
If one thinks ‘knowing about politics’ means one can ‘not pay attention to politics’, one needs to read more of the theory behind real politics; and the proper orienting and navigating in the ‘equatorial’ conflict and the correct handling of the contradictions between the people.
That’s where I’ve reached as well. Scrolling the threads on this site is the most I’ll do now days
Vance is crushing, honestly
And then: Walz with a mealy-mouthed closing; Vance with a strong, sharp message that you deserve a house and a square meal, and reminding you that Kamala hasn’t given that to you. And those baby blue eyes. It’s too bad he’s evil.
Yeah I’ll be honest he’s doing better than I was expecting. He’s managing to not let himself get pinned down defending stupid things Trump, and even he himself has previously said, and has been fairly charismatic and articulate. Walz sounds incoherent at times, and keeps bringing up terminally-political-brained stuff without giving sufficient elaboration/context, so most normal people won’t even understand what he’s referring to. Vance is a piece of shit for sure, but he’s surprisingly good at making Trump and himself sound palatable, if you didn’t know better.
if you didn’t know better
Exactly. He’s really deft at framing, esp. in giving the viewers a permission structure to support Trump, and giving assuring, flip responses while avoid being pinned on satanic GOP positions, which is leaving Walz blathering, trying to clarify.
Harris and Walz need to stop bringing up Project 2025 in debates. All they have to do is say “no I don’t support that, here’s what I actually support”. Immediate, easy deflect into a stump speech.
Agreed. Project 2025 has always just seemed like bait to me, which the liberal media and democrats have swallowed whole. Not in the sense that it’s fake or that everything in it isn’t something the GOP actually wishes it could do, but that it has gotten political brain poisoned liberals to freak out constantly about some spooky opaque 1000 page document that no sane person is ever actually going to read, instead of addressing the issues average people actually care about. It just makes them sound weird and annoying.
He’s got the energy of a debate kid and the education of an Ivy League shithead. He struggles to appear like a normal person, not like a smarty pants fast talker.
No wonder he’s crushing at a debate then
Lib alert
No you
Tim Walz
school shooters???Maybe the worst gaffe to have at that moment
WALZ SAID HE’S FRIENDS WITH SCHOOL SHOOTERS!!
Uvaldazed and Confused
Ohhh hell nawwww!
whatever man this shit’s boring, who cares
That sounded mean after I posted it, I hope everyone that cares about this has fun
It’s less about caring about it and more about experiencing this vile shit with comrades
As far as I’m capable of having any morbid curiosity left for Amerikkkan electoralism I am a little curious if Walz attempts to disingenuously gesture leftward at all or if they’re both just gonna try to outdo each other on how “tough on crime” they are and how they have the best record on
blut und bidenhomeland securityDon’t think I can get myself interested enough to watch live though, I’m sure I’ll hear about it from some podcast(s) and get mad about things later
lmao
blut und bidenwas a typo but I’m keeping it
as with the kamala-trump debate, the dems are gloating about the brutality of their border policy while the fascists accuse them of not being brutal enough. americans’ blood lust is insatiable
thankfully i apparently missed the part about palestine
Cackling as Walz is dropping spaghetti trying to evade his fib that he embellished his Trot credibility by being at a very terrible Tiananmen Square protest.
I’m busy tonight, can they postpone the debate to tomorrow instead?
hey i asked them for you and they said yeah no problem
Thank you!
i regret to inform you, but you’ve been bamboozled
I can’t believe they’d do this to me </3. They held the debate without me! I was going to write in JD Walz and Tim Vance for president and VP but now that I know they’d lie about something so important I just can’t. Guess I’ll have to vote PSL.
WNBA playoffs are on tonight. Anyone who watches the debate over Aces v Liberty is a fuckin dweeb
Lmao the questions seem to be weirdly pro-Trump for CNN. There’s this question about calling Walz out on a lie about going to China during Tianamen Square. Kinda just bizarre.
It was funny how when he “answered” the question it sounded more like he was getting defensive about going to China at all, rather than just saying “well damn I guess I forgot the exact details of something that happened 35 years ago” even when they asked for clarification, he just kind of reiterated the original claim that he was there during the protests lol.
I mean, the “Tiananmen Square” that Americans think of is just one picture on one day, but there were student protests for at least three months right? So he could have just said he was there during the student movement of '89? Daddy football was pretty garsh darn flustered tonight for sure.
Right, but the protests and the aftermath were pretty much over by early to mid-June. He didn’t even go to Hong Kong until August, if I remember correctly. Sure it may have been a topic of discussion while he was there, but he was not actually there during them. Just seemed incredibly silly that he kept trying to maintain the facade. He could’ve simply admitted he misremembered/misspoke (which he did sort of eventually do, only to immediately backpedal it and repeat the original claim again, to the moderator’s confusion). It was an absolute softball of a question and he completely fumbled it.
Ahhhh - well that definitely plays into the Midwestern dad who tells fish stories vibe he’s doing.
s have to stop trying to make “politics of joy” a thingSounds like Walz got ez clapped.
But it still pisses me off they use “joy” and not “optimism”. The former just reeks of self-infantilization.
There is a very specific reason why they used the words “joy” and “the strongest military in the world”.
Cool
jesus fucking christ
Speaking of self-infantilization, It’s only a matter of time until the democrats start calling each other “fren”.
He didn’t. But this was pretty much a stalemate in what could’ve been a bloodbath if Walz actually tried to attack.
The politics of JOI
