• ivn
        17·
        2 months ago

        You are right, my bad, last change seems to be a year ago.

    • atro_city@fedia.io
      11·
      2 months ago

      It isn’t? I just read that the “Chrome MV2 deprecation enterprise rollout” is in June 2025. When is the exact date for the end v2 support? “The changes will be rolled out over the coming months to Chrome Stable, with the goal of completing the transition by the beginning of next year.” is not “predictable”. It can be any time between 2024 November to 2025 April, maybe even May.

      Imagine giving that kind of a time to friend “yeah, I’ll show up probably at the beginning of 2025, but that’s the plan, it may be all the way until June 2025”. Very “predictable”.

      • ivn
        6·
        2 months ago

        It’s really standard to leave some time for users to adapt when making a big change. Especially end users. It’s actually a good thing, the “friend showing up” analogy makes no sense.

        End of support for users is June 2024.

        But it did seem to have changed a year ago or so, my bad.

    • bob_lemon@feddit.org
      23·
      2 months ago

      Because someone said 10 years ago that it was slow, which is since parroted by a ton of people that would not notice it in any real life scenario.

    • Krzd@lemmy.world
      4·
      2 months ago

      It feels clunky to me. However ads are so much more clunky that I’m gonna switch the second Vivaldi stops working properly.

    • Coriza@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 months ago

      I started with Firefox when I was a teenager yet, and when the first chrome version dropped it was awesome so I migrated. I think I was at uni at the time and Google was seem as a good thing. Gmail was just a couple of years old and was awesome. Webmails at the time was rought.

      But chrome changed, and goodle changed. But many years into it was hard to move away. For me the biggest single problem with Firefox was that I could not kill tabs in the tabs “process manager”. I keep a lot of tabs open and no browser really solved the problem of many open tabs and tabs that keept open for many weeks. A lot of websites have “memory leak” and slowly but surely grow and grow with memory usage (YouTube is one of them). So that and a bunch of tabs made the usage of the kill tab a must. Over the years I looked for extensions to both organize the tabs better and also not have to keep só much of them opened. But nothing really helped me change my bad habits. I almost migrated back to Firefox when they had the tab groups feature. But they removed and also removed some functionality that made easy to change the whole browser but was a security nightmare.

      Anyway, things have changed and I am in the process of migrating. I can kill tabs in Firefox now. I was missing the group tabs feature from chrome, because I got used to it but I think Sideberry can do that and also help manage a lot of tabs/windows and also snapshots. I use session buddy in chrome. But that fucker failed me many times and I had to recovered the lost saved sessions. That kinda leave worried with Sideberry and use more of the advanced tab management stuff. But at least I noticed today that it can auto-export the snapshots to the external FS and then no matter what happens with the extension DB I can always recover it.

      So Yeah. Took a minute but I think I am almost ready to really migrate.

      TL;DR: Getting too comfy with a closed platform is a bitch.

  • hperrin@lemmy.world
    371·
    2 months ago

    The longer they put it off, the more unnoticed it will go when they finally do it.

  • Engywuck@lemm.ee
    22·
    2 months ago

    DNS blocker + browser built-in adblocker (+ system-wide AdGuard). Be my guest.

    • renzev@lemmy.worldOP
      4·
      2 months ago

      Any browsers with good built-in adblocker besides brave? I feel like firefox’s built-in content filtering does the very minimum, but I might be wrong

      system-wide AdGuard

      This is the way on mobile lol. The android rom I’m using comes with a built-in systemwide blocker, which I didn’t know about for a very long time, so I was very confused when I saw other people using the same apps as me and seeing ads lol.

            • Engywuck@lemm.ee
              352·
              2 months ago

              Because I don’t like Mozilla and don’t want to give them market share. And, well, because it suck badly.

                • Pieisawesome@lemmy.world
                  63·
                  2 months ago

                  A real answer, they pay their ceo millions, and they are hiring gen ai and ads engineers.

                  They stopped focusing on their core web browser product

                • Engywuck@lemm.ee
                  249·
                  2 months ago

                  LOL, why should I justify my choices to a stranger on the internet? I don’t like Mozilla. Full stop.

              • psvrh@lemmy.ca
                7·
                2 months ago

                Can you quantify why you don’t like Mozilla?

                I understand why someone might find Firefox itself subpar in some cases, but I’d like to hear what your issues with the organization are.

          • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
            31·
            2 months ago

            Avoiding FF while supporting Chromium based browsers is just the most nonsensical moronic shit I’ve ever heard in the whole browser debate.

            • Engywuck@lemm.ee
              228·
              2 months ago

              Whatever. Keep donating to Mozilla and their dying, shitty browser and leave me alone. I didn’t want to start a debate.

                • Engywuck@lemm.ee
                  15·
                  2 months ago

                  The same Google that keeps Mozilla alive? Mozilla’s shills are so boring and short-minded. Just leave me alone. Nobody asked your opinion.

            • Engywuck@lemm.ee
              339·
              2 months ago

              Because I don’t like Mozilla and don’t want to give them market share. And, well, because it suck badly.

              • coaxil@lemm.ee
                4·
                2 months ago

                Fair enough, are there any non chromium alternatives that are decent ATM? I haven’t looked at alternative browsers for some time.

          • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
            102·
            2 months ago

            Why do you want Google to have hegemony over web standards?

            • Engywuck@lemm.ee
              316·
              2 months ago

              Are you seriously implying that that 2% of FF market share is what avoids the “hegemony”? lol.

              Mozilla has worked very hard to sabotage FF. I’ve been a loyal FF user since 2002 and finally showed them the finger in 2021, when they confirmed that they don’t respect their community. They are just another corp now. So, why should I use an inferior browser from them?

              I won’t reply further. I didn’t want to start a debate and I’m quite pissed off of Mozilla advocates.

      • RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        7·
        2 months ago

        To my knowledge there are no browsers that have anything similar to brave built in. Ublock simply is incredibly well made (that’s what braves adblocker is based on), so I would always try to use that. Gnome web has in my experience the best built in Adblock except brave (fine for everything but YouTube). AFAIK Firefox forks can change what the built in content filter blocks, at least on librewolf some ads were missing even with ublock disabled.

        • shrugs@lemmy.world
          71·
          2 months ago

          Give it two more years and brave will stop backporting manifestv2, then you have even less options to avoid google deciding which content needs to be shoved in your face.

          I’m using Firefox since forever. In the past I have checked a few times if a swap to chromium is worth it. It never was.

          I really don’t understand people that prefer Google over Mozilla. Firefox works like a charm and Google already knows enough about us IMHO.

          • drathvedro@lemm.ee
            2·
            2 months ago

            I really don’t understand people that prefer Google over Mozilla. Firefox works like a charm and Google already knows enough about us IMHO.

            Firefox objectively has poor responsiveness in some apps, hence why some “works only in chrome” banners are justified. Can’t quite put my finger of it, but it got a lot worse somewhere between quantum and heartbleed(but not because of it, I checked), and it never recovered. In my own projects that were time-sensitive, like 3d games and music apps, I couldn’t find the source of it, but found that while some approaches led to major performance hit on firefox, others majorly hit chromium, and vice versa, and it was all about juggling to finding an approach that doesn’t hit either as hard. But in some cases there were none and so I had to choose. Obviously the browser engine with a higher market share wins. And because of that, to be on par with Chrome, Firefox not only has to be better, it has to be not worse in all cases, which is a rather tough challenge.

      • atro_city@fedia.io
        5·
        2 months ago

        LibreWolf ? First thing that came up when searching for a non-chrome browser with builtin adblocker.

        • renzev@lemmy.worldOP
          2·
          2 months ago

          The term “built-in” is a bit fuzzy here. Librewolf just uses ublock origin. It’s only “built-in” in the sense that it’s installed automatically

      • Engywuck@lemm.ee
        35·
        2 months ago

        Vivaldi and Opera have one, as well, but I never really used it for long.

    • ivn
      3·
      2 months ago

      But if the extension is removed from the store you will not get updates.

      • Nougat@fedia.io
        24·
        2 months ago

        Good thing you can add extensions from places other than the store.

        • renzev@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          Not sure why the downvotes. I generally try to avoid extensions apart from ublock origin, but if I really need something, then I always get it from the developer’s github, not from chrome/firefox store. WAY TOO MANY cases of open-source extensions getting hijacked with malware on the store but not on github. Remember cookies.txt? Or great suspender? Or stylish?

        • ivn
          2·
          2 months ago

          But uBlock Origin does not set update_url in it’s manifest.json so it won’t update automatically. You’d have to do it manually every time.

            • ivn
              6·
              2 months ago

              It’s a good thing to be able to communicate without sarcasms when it’s not called for.

              But I don’t think it’ll change, feel free to try and make a PR but you’ll also need to setup a server to host the releases and update.xml.