• @TheFrirish
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    If there was karma on this place then I’m about to yeet it into oblivion but nevertheless. Teachers are not paid nearly enough but doing only fans and teaching to not combine at all. I won’t bother explaining why because it’s obvious.

    • @Senal@programming.dev
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      283 months ago

      To me this reads as:


      < preemptive justification for saying something controversial and/or indefensible >

      < controversial statement with no justification or reasoning >

      “Not going to explain because it’s obvious”


      Probably not how it was intended, but that’s some weak sauce

      • @TheFrirish
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        My sauce is that it is not how a teacher should act period. Also it’s not private she also has some pornhub which is publicly available website. no matter the pay.

        • @BreakDecks@lemmy.ml
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          53 months ago

          that it is not how a teacher should act period.

          C’mon dude, just say the sexist parts out loud. We all know that’s where this conversation is headed anyway.

          It’s the only reason you keep sticking to circular logic to defend yourself. You know if you say what you really mean here, it isn’t going to go over well.

          • @TheFrirish
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            What is there sexist about this mate ? It doesn’t matter whoever does it a teacher should not be making porn on the side.

              • @TheFrirish
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                When someone works in education, they take on a role that involves being a model of behavior and a guardian of social and ethical standards for their students. Engaging in online (which by design is inevitably public) sexual activities can be seen as inappropriate for teachers for several reasons:

                1. Professional Standards and Ethics: Most educational institutions have codes of conduct that outline expected behaviors both inside and outside the classroom. Engaging in these activities can be viewed as a violation of these professional standards and ethics.

                2. Role Modeling: Teachers are seen as role models by their students and the community. Engaging in behavior that is generally considered to be private and intimate in public can undermine the respect and trust that students and parents have in educators. It can also send conflicting messages to students about privacy, consent, and appropriate social behavior.

                3. Social Norms: Engaging in these online practices can offend community standards. Educators, as public figures to some extent, are expected to uphold social norms to maintain the integrity of their profession.

                4. Impact on the Educational Environment: Such behavior can distract from the educational mission, potentially creating an environment that is not conducive to learning. It might lead to gossip, disruptions, and a breakdown in the professional atmosphere of an institution.

                5. Privacy and Professional Boundaries: Teachers engaging in this blur the lines between their private lives and their professional roles. Maintaining a clear boundary between these spheres is essential for maintaining professional integrity and ensuring that the focus remains on education and student welfare.

                In essence, teachers are expected to conduct themselves in a manner that maintains the dignity of their profession, respects the norms of society and fosters a positive, respectful, and effective learning environment. Online sexual activities, due to their private nature and potential to conflict with social norms, can significantly undermine these goals.

                Finally, I want to add that it is specifically because of all this that teachers must be paid way more due to the CRITICAL role they play in society.

                • @BreakDecks@lemmy.ml
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                  23 months ago

                  1/2: You’re basically saying the same thing twice here. You’re saying that making adult content is bad, which has so far been your only argument. You have yet to explain why it is bad/immoral/unethical/unprofessional, just confidently asserting that your opinon on the matter is actually fact. You are also taking huge liberties by trying define the private production and distribution of pornography as a form of public sex.

                  3: Very close again to 1 & 2, but worth bringing up that America is a free country with free speech and expression. Being offended isn’t a valid argument here. People have rights and shouldn’t be obligated to conform with a concept a vacuous as “social norms” to hold public employment.

                  4: This is just conjecture. Firing a teacher for this requires solid evidence that is true. Not just concern trolling that it might be true, which is all you’ve offered so far.

                  5: That’s why she has always produced adult content pseudonymously. The people who doxxed her violated her privacy. That’s hardly her fault.

                  And finally, literally every single point you made could be (and regularly is) used to argue that LBGTQ+ people don’t belong in education, because hatred of sex workers and hatred of queer people are both rooted in a deep fear and opposition to sexual freedom and empowerment, and a belief that those things make a person’s mere existence inappropriate for children.

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        that’s actually what I’m saying as well. The pay for teachers and the conditions they are working in are absolutely horrendous. I can’t imagine working with a bunch of, lets face it, zoo animals who have a near free rule because the school and the parents back them all the time and that 5 days a week for hours. but at the end of the day you can’t expect to post porn online and then be suprised that you’re getting fired. The reality is that teachers are still held to high standards while received little to no pay and students are not. in a perfect world I expect both of them to be held to high standards.

    • @BreakDecks@lemmy.ml
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      113 months ago

      I won’t bother explaining why because it’s obvious articulating my feelings on this would reveal me to be sexist and regressive.

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      53 months ago

      So I’m just curious as to who exactly reported her because presumably they don’t look at that kind of content and when they did find that content they were appalled and they just sort of stumbled onto it?

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        Thanks I practically explosed laughing and everyone in the waiting room starred at me.