• Zos_Kia
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    19 hours ago

    That’s bullshit. Almost all meta hires are poached, and they’re not coming for you if you’re not in a position to make good money.

    The vast majority of these people chose to leave an already cushy job to get in there.

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      16 hours ago

      I mean if I worked for a soul sucking corporation (pick one Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, etc.) and another shitty corporation (Meta) offered me a substantial pay raise why wouldn’t I take it?

      Isn’t that the issue? We’ve created a system where you need money to live, and basically if you buy food and have a place to live you contribute to a system of exploitation.

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        16 hours ago

        I mean if I worked for a soul sucking corporation (pick one Amazon, Microsoft, Apple, etc.) and another shitty corporation (Meta) offered me a substantial pay raise why wouldn’t I take it?

        But that’s not the real scenario. Monstruous companies aren’t the only jobs around. There’s a bajillion smaller and more ethical companies that hire the same kind of profiles as Meta.

        Also the mega-corporations tend to not poach small fish from each other. Sure they’ll go after each other’s top performers but there’s a tacit agreement that “normal workers” are not fair game.

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          16 hours ago

          Clearly you have not been looking for a job lately. I’ve known people with experience and degrees that have been searching for like 6 months. It’s bad out there, especially for the tech industry.

          Idk why you want to fight the worker and not the corporations

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            15 hours ago

            I’ve known people with experience and degrees that have been searching for like 6 months

            If that is the case then Meta probably won’t touch their resume with a 10-ft pole.

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              15 hours ago

              Right so now you’ve taken 2 steps back. It’s not more moral to work for any other corporation that meta is poaching either.

              Is it more moral to work for Amazon? Microsoft? Walmart?

              Not really. The worker should try to improve their material condition since that’s the position we’ve all been put in.

              You suggest everyone go work for a “small buisness” when those jobs simply don’t exist.

              I don’t know why you are trying to shame the worker for trying to survive in the system.

              Fun fact btw Walmart and Amazon are the 2 largest employers in the US. I suppose all their workers should quit and go work for Bob’s Bait & Tackle down the road. I’m sure he has about 3 million jobs just lying around

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                14 hours ago

                Are you under the impression that only Amazon, Microsoft & Walmart are hiring ? Did every software company suddenly vanish while i was napping ? Sorry but there are a million companies hiring the same kind of profiles as Meta, which are not evil monopolistic mega-corporations.

                Also what’s Walmart got to do with this ? You think greeters and cashiers are hired from the same pool as Meta product owners ?

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                  14 hours ago

                  Right so now if we once again go back 2 comments you can remember my comment on the poor state of the current job market.

                  Also what’s Walmart got to do with this ? You think greeters and cashiers are hired from the same pool as Meta product owners ?

                  See you missed the point there. Walmart has and continues to do irreprepable harm to the economy, workers, and the planet. By the logic you proposed the workers are responsible for that. Just like the workers for meta are responsible.

                  Honestly it doesn’t matter if you make 300k a year at Meta or $12 an hour at Walmart. At the end of the day when compared to the billionaires exploiting the labor of both the difference between these workers is about a billion dollars

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                    14 hours ago

                    Honestly it doesn’t matter if you make 300k a year at Meta or $12 an hour at Walmart

                    It absolutely does. If you can make 300K at Meta you can make 250K someplace else. Missing out on those extra 50K is nowhere near an existential threat to you.

                    If you make 12$/h at Walmart i am not blaming you for taking what you can and making a living of it. If you work for a Meta subcontractor in Kenya doing 300$ a month i am not blaming you.

                    But if you choose to work for an objectively evil company while you have other options (which you definitely have if EvilCorp is even considering your resume), and you make that choice just to maximize your discretionary spending… then you can’t play the solidarity card.

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      17 hours ago

      You do know that meta doesn’t only have high level jobs, right? There cannot just be middle managers everywhere without the bog standard workers.

      What kind of perception do you have of tech giants? That all who work there are some kind of imaginary elite?

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        16 hours ago

        meta doesn’t only have high level jobs

        The majority of their hires are experienced profiles. “Bog standard” worker in Meta is already a pretty high paying job as entry level work is massively outsourced.

        all who work there are some kind of imaginary elite?

        That’s not at all what i’m saying. I’m saying if you can land a job at Meta then you can absolutely find a job elsewhere. There is nobody in the world who is stuck between an empty belly and accepting a position at Meta. They’re just stuck between making good money somewhere, and making better money at Meta.

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        16 hours ago

        Noooo everyone at meta is making at minimum 300,000 a year.

        They poach their janitors

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          15 hours ago

          I would imagine their janitors don’t actually work for meta, but are provided via a complex web of contracts that helps them pay the janitors as little as possible, while enriching a middle man who does… little…

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            14 hours ago

            Exactly. Mega corps don’t touch entry level work, they do exactly as you say and pay a friend of theirs so that this friend can steal wages from poor people and guarantee them floor-level prices.

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      13 hours ago

      almost all Meta hires are poached

      You think they poached “almost all” of their 80k employees?

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        13 hours ago

        It’s kind of standard practice at this level. They get a million resumes a week in inbound, of which they hire very little, and they have an army of recruiters who go searching for people in the industry, who for the most part already have a job.

        It’s way more profitable to let small startups grow juniors into competent employees and pluck them when they’re ripe, than to take risks on junior profiles. (not that i condone it but it’s a sad truth of recruitment)