I feel bad for libs (this one time) because they don’t get how funny it is

CW: bleak. I am now imagining nuclear bunker nursing homes, which likely exist in some form. Ultra wealthy who have commissioned billion dollar bunkers surely have nurses and doctors on retainer.

I may have got them mixed up. It’s probably Flanagan who said it. Both are enthusiastic anti-communist, Atlantic writers.

Whenever she is mentioned I think about her expressing contempt for her leftist/“leftist” parents because they checks notes helped Vietnam draft dodgers

Somewhat similar situation. I would love to visit Russia but there’s a non-zero chance of [something happening]. I joke that I would learn some choice phrases in Russian before going.

I learned that on that Chapo episode. Glad you posted about it. I feel bad that I have been so ignorant. I need to listen to Blowback.

I think people who suggest shit like this mistake what Israel’s purpose is.

Of course, but getting people to that point is basically left-pilling them which is challenging, understatement. There’s a huge chasm between whatever, say, John Oliver is and hexbearist thought. In my experience, non-libs (chuds, conspiracy theorists with strange politics, “regular, apolitical” Americans, etc) are more open to learning than libs, but they come with their own reactionary biases.

In other words, I can see libs tepidly exploring Why didn’t Germany give up land to create Israel as reparations, but they’re not ready for even a theoretical understanding of Death to America.

I think sometimes when leftists say Why wasn’t Israel in Germany they are trying to do a logic-appeal to progressives and left-libs who would need hours of education that they are willfully closed off to to understand that Israel is America’s largest unsinkable aircraft carrier.

Your first point stands!

frontmost-right bench

hunched in the back-left corner

New political compass dropped.

just not feeling the idea of having a woman as president

3 of the 6 prez candidates on the Calif ballot are women

Not the OP but several of my acquaintances/colleagues (in the US) have a pretty good understanding and support US/Western hegemony. One is (was) a Warren lib (now Kamala). Another is wealthy (“upper-middle”). Another is a 2nd gen immigrant professional (conservative liberal). And another is a Reagan Republican fond of the line, “Capitalism is the worst economic system except for all the others.” They are very bright, well-read, plugged-in people with horrible politics. These are people who think that really horrible things are a sad necessity. (A genocide to prevent a genocide type stuff.)

These people are the exceptions in terms of knowing about the world and history. Most people I know have no clue how the world works and don’t want to hear it because it’s a bummer. They’ve chosen a team: lib v anti-lib. The libs might be sad about the “complicated Palestine situation” as they pull they lever for Kamala.

Thanks for sharing. This is not a criticism, but in my head I am changing “Jews” to “Zionist Jews” in that quote.

I saw a comment on the TrueAnon sub that said “if any of you youngsters are around in 50 years when the U.S. admits it blew up the Nordstream, let them know we knew.”

We’re basically at this point with the Iraq weapons of mass destruction narrative. I marched; we knew. The lib friend I marched with doesn’t give a shit anymore. (He’s wealthy.)

The 2k ton bombs that Israel dropped on Lebanon were made by the US. US bombs killed Hassan Nasrallah. I don’t see the distinction between the US funding and making the weapons for the genocide(s) (and probably (definitely?) having US troops in IOF) versus having an actually declared war against Palestine/Lebanon/etc (which the US doesn’t even do anymore anyway).

This is going to sound off the wall but I was listening to Michael Moore’s podcast at the time (March 2020) and he had correct predictions. His ivory castle contacts were telling him the real truth that the public officials were obfuscating. He said, according to his sources, we would have wave after wave of lockdowns and openings for at least a year, probably longer.

because of the failure of US imperialism in Cuba

Holy shit. I never made that connection.

It’s in the latest Chapo reading series

I heard that phrase on mainstream tv news today (ABC US), some talking head saying we need to stop Iran from using its weapons of mass destruction.

Sons/daughters of leftists don’t have a great track record. Hoping it just skips a generation. (I know nothing about Cárdenas del Río specifically)

I’m repurposing a comment I left on a post about Palantir’s involvement in the pager attacks (posted to c chapotraphouse).

Palantir CEO Alex Karp appeared as the main interview on Real Time with Bill Maher on Friday. He is an enthusiastic believer in the moral authority and superiority of the US.

He says the future of modern warfare will be peer to peer and drone to drone. “You’re going to be using software to control small instruments and there’s going to be hundreds of thousands of them.” He mentions fighting China and Russia specifically.

I don’t know if this is news but interesting to hear him say a lot of evil shit out-loud on a pretty mainstream platform. Also I watched it after the pager attack happened so it took on extra significance.

edit - fixed spelling of guy’s name

I saw the CEO’s appearance on Real Time with Bill Maher which aired Friday. It’s actually worth watching because he says stuff out-loud and he’s a true believer. His ideology such as it is is a lot like Sam Harris but he’s more mask off and more animated and enthusiastic.

He says the future of modern warfare will be peer to peer and drone to drone. “You’re going to be using software to control small instruments and there’s going to be hundreds of thousands of them.” He mentions fighting China and Russia specifically.

Thoughts. The mega-war comments were kinda cringe (esp vis a vis trans mega although I don’t think there was bad intent, hope not) and I wished people self policed more. (Not shaming anyone, bandwagons happen and now it’s corrected.) It seems these comments have been minimized and I appreciate the mod work on this. I don’t think it’s an issue anymore.

The “innocent” OT (and “oops wrong mega”) I appreciate as long as there are not too many.

The news mega is a community and sometimes I have an issue or topic that I’d like feedback and engagement on from my news comrades here. This is a common phenomenon across special interest groups, you become friendly and wish to expand the range of conversation or you wish to tap the knowledge base. (I suppose my saying this could be interpreted as a reason for More Moderation in news mega to ensure that other comms get love. It’s not my call.) Maybe a pinned comment to contain OT? Did someone else suggest that? Or what if we make a post in another targeted comm and leave a pointer here in the news mega. I’ve pointed to a news comm story in the news mega - and got positive feedback from a couple who had missed it.

Re doomer stuff. Let people vent, and use the reply. We all learn and so will the libs who wander in.