I was watching “…why Skyrim?” by Razbuten on sloptube this aft and it’s so weird that it finally took Starfield for people to realise. Like Fallout 76 wasn’t enough, only now are negative things people were first saying about Skyrim in 2012 finally bleeding into mainstream consciousness. It’s so wild, like wow they ruined the magic system? The game has worse writing than a PS1 era Mega Man X game??? Skyrim is just shitty Game of Thrones?? Welcome to thirteen years ago!!
Bethesda hasn’t made a really good game since 2002, but it’ll probably be years before that realisation sinks in.
Morrowind elitists don’t understand morrowind was a pretty shit role playing game itself
this is literally like wrong, it appeals to a lot more niche RPG interests but it’s not a shit RPG by any means
Compared to a lot of the isometric rpgs like planescape torment that came before or new Vegas and baldurs gate 3 that came after’? It’s dog shit. Wikipedia npcs are not immersive to me friend
People getting defensive about favorite treats
Those are a CRAZY high bar. I agree it has flaws but it isn’t shit
there’s shitty things about it and stuff that yes, even skyrim did better. but part of being an agonizing scold is also having to couch that in the context of its time, so a lot of it wasn’t as bad as it looks now.
Yeah I know. Just people who worship morrowind generally don’t realize it’s mainly their nostalgia that makes the game legendary in their heads.
Just like oblivion was my first elder scrolls so that’s the one I gravitate towards
as someone who has played both Skyrim and morrowind long after both came out, I can say with certainty that there are certain aspects of their preference that are just true. Morrowind fundamentally caters to the “weird nerd tinkerer” kind of player way more, with seemingly purposely broken mechanics that are designed to be fully solved through exploring them. Kind of a toolkit of random toys to play with combined with an overarching story.
Whereas Skyrim does have those toys, they were significantly shifted towards being a supporting aspect of the game with the plot and quests taking center stage. This isn’t a bad thing, but it stopped catering to people who play with systems as much and started catering towards people who enjoy (multiple concurrent) linear stories more. If you’re the kind of person who either roleplays a character that doesn’t make sense with the stricter plot, or if you just want to generally fuck around, Morrowind is genuinely a better game (if you can stomach the absurdly out of date graphics). I would describe Morrowind as more of a full on RPG and Skyrim as more of a single-player MMORPG with less predatory monetization (well, when it was originally released at least). One is about giving a player the tools to basically make a story from whole cloth (which does kind of make the existing main story in Morrowind kind of a detractor sometimes), and another is about giving the player far more fleshed out linear narratives to take them on. Both are fun but for very different moods or preferences.
Linear stories that are awful, to boot. Describing Skyrim as a “single player mmo” is so enlightening to me, it’s like Borderlands and I hate both, lol
If I want to play a full rpg. I’m not going to be playing a post daggerfall Bethesda game.
It’s just not that good of a role playing experience
Better than Skyrim or Oblivion? Sure. But it’s not some masterpiece of rpg gaming Bethesda games have since morrowind and todd Howard been far more about the exploration than the role playing
If you’re trying to gatekeep rpgs with Morrowind. I’m sorry but that’s laughable to me
Keep in mind these are video game treats people. Please don’t go insane because I’m not a morrowind fanboy
NO I wouldn’t gatekeep anyone. I fucking loved Skyrim for ages and think anyone who likes it more than Morrowind (or even a lot more) or any game more than Morrowind is completely valid and reasonable. Art (even silly escapist art like video games) gets way worse when it’s a “whose better” wankfest
I didn’t think you were trying to gate keep my friend
I just meant some Morrowind fanboys do and it’s irritating whenever I bring up enjoying Oblivion. Morrowind fanboys pop and tell me how my tastes are shit or how in supposedly a casual (whatever that means)
oh yeah I can get how that’s frustrating asf
If it means anything I do think Skyrim is a genuinely fun game. Like it is super broken but that is kind of fun for me and also I can’t criticize when I think it’s fun in most other games
absolutely, i just want to be fair on both sides [filthy centrism] since i think there’s cool experiences in all three
Can you tell me any experiences you’ve had with the orange order?
none but Orangists in Belfast is hilarious as a concept holy shit. can Sinn Feinn just finish the job already?
These old fools are self hating gaelics. They don’t realize even lowland Scots have substantial Gaelic ancestry lmao