• The_Terrible_Humbaba@slrpnk.net
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    5 months ago

    Yes, you build up Anarchism, a network of horizontal structures, from the bottom up. You build up Marxism by building dual power via councils, unions, and other democratic structures that can replace the Capialist state. These are separate concepts with similar but distinct goals.

    Right, but so it seems we agree? This post’s explanation of socialism excludes anarchism, among other forms of socialism, which was my criticism. It only focuses on ML, but titles itself “What the heck is Socialism?”

    Perhaps I expressed my self wrong at some point, or misinterpreted something, but that’s the point I was trying to make from the start.

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      5 months ago

      Right, but so it seems we agree?

      Mostly, the end-goal is different, however. Marxists view managerial roles and administration as tools to be used by the Proletariat (even as the Proletariat erases itself). Anarchists disagree, and want horizontalism the entire way through, like a spiderweb.

      This post’s explanation of socialism excludes anarchism, among other forms of socialism, which was my criticism. It only focuses on ML, but titles itself “What the heck is Socialism?”

      I agree, it is focused on Marxism. However, if it were to also include Anarchism, it risks being too complicated and lengthy. Additionally, nothing shown is ML specific, MLism gets into the idea of a Vanguard Party, Imperialism as the primary antagonist of Communism, and more, Lenin is just shown as an icon, like Picard is later on.

      Perhaps I expressed my self wrong at some point, or misinterpreted something, but that’s the point I was trying to make from the start.

      No worries, I think we are mostly in alignment, except with different ideas of what Marx was describing as Communism vs the Anarchist vision of Communism. If you ever have questions about Marxism, feel free to message me and I will do my best to help answer them.

    • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
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      5 months ago

      Perhaps I expressed my self wrong at some point, or misinterpreted something, but that’s the point I was trying to make from the start.

      Glad to see that this got figured out. This is a perennial issue in interpersonal communication, especially text.