Well, yeah.

Madame web wasn’t even a marvel movie, it was just loosely based on the name of a marvel character, and everyone knew it.

The Marvels, well, I think it was the wrong movie at the wrong time with the wrong script. It was never going to put up big numbers, and I’m not sure why anyone involved thought it would. If it had been exactly the same, but done as a miniseries for streaming, it would have done better.

But, trying to take the characters straight from their last appearances in previous stories and throwing them together just because? Was never going to work. And it sucks, because Kamala had a great show that should have set the character up for a second series, and then bump her into movies. Rambeau, I think could have been moved into a team movie and been accepted, but that’s not what Marvels was; it wasn’t a team movie. It was a forced “we gotta put all the Ms/Capt Marvels together!” movie.

It was arbitrary, in other words. No buildup, no real effort to get the characters moving towards a longer arc. It was the equivalent of the Justice League movie, where it was rushed into being way sooner than it should have been. And it flopped. I actually love all three characters, and I like or love all three portrayals of them (yes, even Larson’s badly written one is okay), and Marvels just wasn’t well written, or well directed, and I suspect too much executive meddling during editing as well.

But Deadpool? The movies have been propelled the entire time with passion, and with adherence to the spirit of the character. Of course it was going to wreck the numbers of anything since endgame. Even without Wolverine, Deadpool 3 was going to do well.