Is it true that if someone takes a kid hostage, you’re justified in killing the kid? Sounds fucked up, the idea that killing someone who is doing Bad Things is more important than protecting the life of an innocent child. Hmm. Not sure about this “international rules based” order the crackers keep talking about.
i don’t think it is written in the statutes that you can. Israeli lawyers argue for their right to & to designate human shields as ‘consensual’ Israel isn’t party to Hostages Convention either
One of the really fascinating things about October 7th was that Israel’s top priority was openly “preventing Hamas from getting in”, with all other considerations, like the preservation of Israeli life, coming second. Then you read stories about helicopters firing missiles without targeting carefully or those girls in tanks firing on kibbutz homes without a clear idea of who is inside, and it becomes an inevitable conclusion that the civilian death toll (such as it even existed, since there was a heavy military presence there) was almost entirely Israel’s fault on an immediate level, even before getting into “Their policies made the attack inevitable” and such
stories about helicopters firing missiles without targeting carefully or those girls in tanks firing on kibbutz homes without a clear idea of who is inside
Does anyone have a ‘reputable’ (i.e. Western or at least Al Jazeera) source for both of these? I need to show some people.
Is it true that if someone takes a kid hostage, you’re justified in killing the kid? Sounds fucked up, the idea that killing someone who is doing Bad Things is more important than protecting the life of an innocent child. Hmm. Not sure about this “international rules based” order the crackers keep talking about.
i don’t think it is written in the statutes that you can. Israeli lawyers argue for their right to & to designate human shields as ‘consensual’
Israel isn’t party to Hostages Convention either
One of the really fascinating things about October 7th was that Israel’s top priority was openly “preventing Hamas from getting in”, with all other considerations, like the preservation of Israeli life, coming second. Then you read stories about helicopters firing missiles without targeting carefully or those girls in tanks firing on kibbutz homes without a clear idea of who is inside, and it becomes an inevitable conclusion that the civilian death toll (such as it even existed, since there was a heavy military presence there) was almost entirely Israel’s fault on an immediate level, even before getting into “Their policies made the attack inevitable” and such
Does anyone have a ‘reputable’ (i.e. Western or at least Al Jazeera) source for both of these? I need to show some people.
Discussion of the helicopter story, linking directly to a Hebrew article on it: https://thecradle.co/articles-id/11993
And a version of the tank story, though you can even find writers on Haaretz complaining about it: https://thecradle.co/articles-id/15975
Thanks!
Also Reuters if they don’t belive the other source
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israeli-inquiry-finds-oct-7-hostage-likely-killed-by-friendly-fire-2024-04-05/