My main reason? The administration team, I can understand needing money and wanting to charge for the API services, and while they were higher than normal I would have probably been okay with paying a subscription to help keep the third party app I was using running.
That was until I saw the CEOs response to the development community and anyone who remotely asked about it. That was before he absolutely butchered the ama, and before he slandered one of the largest third-party developers in the community, and then when being called with evidence the bull crap he was spreading instead decided to attack said Community member saying that he didn’t realize that it was recorded and that he stands by what he said. That was before he decided to threaten the moderator teams on the platform who may I remind you was working for free as volunteers comparing them to a landed gentry.
It is very clear that what he says publicly is polar opposite of how he administrates, he may say that Reddit is an open Community where the community has final say, but his actions say completely otherwise; it’s his way or the highway. And since he is the CEO of the platform I’m choosing the highway and clearly I’m not the only one.
At this point even if he decided to do a complete 180, and made a formal apology to the site and reversed the actions of the API changes(which I personally think financially wise would be unwise they should have funneled it into Reddit Gold somehow) I wouldn’t go back, it’s clear how the leadership is on the site and quite frankly that’s not something I want to contribute to.
I left when Reddit started effectively taking over subreddits by forcing them to open or change their content to what Reddit thought it should be. I was planning on paying for Reddit premium so I could keep using it ad-free. I am sympathetic to Reddit’s desire to make a profit. But when they started effectively taking over subreddits it stopped being the Reddit I like and I’ll never return.
I actually left Reddit in early 2022, I’m not from the latest migration wave. I left for a combination of these reasons, the first of which is the main one:
- algorithmic feed designed to arise strong emotions, often negative
- snark and noise in the comments
- ads
- impenetrable moderation rules that often make it difficult to figure why a post is rejected, even after carefully reading all the sub’s guidelines and FAQs cover to cover, as well as reviewing past threads
The CEO is a total scumbag and Apollo closing down.
A less toxic alternative got enough users.
I left Reddit because I gave them so many years of dedication (and $ via Reddit premium), not even considering the fact I bought coins on multiple accounts.
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Reddit became way too focused on Karma. Karma is great in concept, but more than half of the users are only posting for internet points at this point. It takes away from the validity of posts imo. How many “I stopped drinking for 30 days!” posts did you see on there with like 70k upvotes and thousands of karma?
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The amount of not genuine posts is alarming. People have become addicted to the upvote/downvote system moreso than boomers on Facebook have become attached to their pages.
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The amount of hate speech, misinformation and blatant lies the site actively promotes is insane.
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They literally made everyone NFT wallets…???
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NFT wallets?? Why the fuck was this ever approved? Oh yeah, more $, and something else for Spez to add to his IPO rubbish. Hey look at us we have some NFTs too type beat.
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The userbase is pretty shit and Spez has even admitted to not caring about the people who made his site what it is.
Why would anyone ever stay on a site where the literal CEO says he doesn’t need nor care about you?
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When I first learned that Reddit would be pricing out third-party apps I was angry and upset, but I still entertained the notion of maybe continuing to use old.reddit on the desktop (until they inevitably killed that). I like many of the communities there and didn’t want to give them up.
But then came the AMA and the leaked memo and the crushing of the protests with threats and strongarm tactics. Everything spez wrote dripped with contempt for the community and the moderators that had made the site what it was through their unpaid labor. The message became clear: “Let the little users cry it out. They’ll have their little tantrum and then they’ll settle down and accept that the reality is that we can do anything we want to them and they have to just accept it. Their communities, their conversations, their culture, it all belongs to us, not to them. We have everything and they have nothing”.
I’m not going back to that.
Yeah, I completely agree. The main app I use didn’t even shut down (Relay) but the AMA convinced me to leave anyway. Spez and the rest of the admins came across as simply vile.
RiF shutting down, deleted my account on the 12th and cited it in the “why are you doing this?” Section. I doubt it even saw human eyes but if you want something to change you have to be willing to give it up 100%. Anything less and u/spez has already won.
Lemmy.world is a nice place and it’s getting pretty big. I hope other instances keep up. I’d enjoy seeing four or five main instances with dozens of smaller ones for specific use cases propping up the content aggregation side of the fediverse into a viable option. Mastodon already has the community size they need to be self sustaining IMO.
Hell if YouTube dumpsters it soon it might actually get the web 3 we really want to see off the ground.
Obviously losing the third party apps and spez’s lies about the Apollo dev were the big ones, but honestly, I have had negative feelings towards the reddit community for a long time. Everyone is perpetually negative. They seem like miserable people. And the fact that every single comments section was same 3 fucking jokes repeated over and over and over. “I’m grieving my wife who passed away this morning” “I also choose this guy’s dead wife.” “Hahahahahahahahahahahahalolololoollolololol” “no it’s okay, the guy who the original joke is about thinks it’s funny, so it’s not offensive to say it to this guy.”
It was based on principal. And Apollo RIP
Same two reasons, but maybe in the opposite order. If Apollo is dead then by principle I’m not going to use Reddit by any other means. But if some other third party app had been banned and Apollo was still alive, I’m not sure I would have been strong enough to break away on principle alone.
What I’m able to say does not come across well in text. Please know that I’m using your comment as a diving board into a larger conversation and that this isn’t about your comment. I too am guilty of what I’m about to say.
But this attitude is the systemic reason why mega corporations, and billionaires are taking over. When the product we consume is good enough for us that we settle.
We’re exhausted into complacency until we’re personally affected by something.
Sorry, the we didn’t start the fire remake really put me in a mood
Yeah I totally agree and understand your point! I was admitting my own lack of a backbone when it comes to convenience vs morality; I’m certainly guilty of taking the easy route over the “right” one in many situations. I don’t love it but hey, we each only have bandwidth to fight so many battles.
Honestly, mostly solidarity.
Sure, the fact that my preferred Reddit app was going the way of the dodo and the fact that they weren’t even trying to negotiate in good faith were reasons, yeah, but at the end of the day, I was just gonna grit my teeth, patch the Reddit app with Revanced, and have that be my personal and insignificant F you.
Then I realized a bigger F you was to deprive them of content, future or present, (mine, specifically. As insignificant as it was) so I did.
And here I am
I was a mod on Reddit so I was personally aware that for years Reddit’s mod tools have been totally inadequate for the job, that Reddit has been promising to give us something better, and that Reddit has failed to deliver. Honestly, it was even worse than just not delivering: we’d get new tools that didn’t solve the main problems, were only available on the iOS app, coming to Android eventually, and coming to the websites never. Third party API tools were the only thing that made modding vaguely functional, even on a small sub.
I’m also a supporter of accessibility in apps, which is also something Reddit has been promising for years and Reddit has failed to deliver. Again, third party API tools are the only thing that makes Reddit vaguely accessible right now.
Reddit’s API changes are not realistic to implement in a single month. This was made clear early on and Reddit has refused to budge. So at this point Reddit is knowingly upending an ecosystem that makes their site usable by groups of users with no first-party replacements ready. And given their history of failing to deliver these very tools, I have no confidence that they will ever do so.
And THEN the Spez AMA happened. I was hoping he’d listen to the community, engage with our concerns, or at the very least actually do an AMA. Instead he got caught lying, he got caught astroturfing, and he inadvertently made it clear that the real issue was that he was butthurt over these third party apps being better at business than Reddit was. Oh, and later we found out the Reddit CEO really admired Elon Musk’s handling of Twitter, a platform I left for all the reasons Spez seems to like it.
Even if none of these issues affected me personally (which they do), Reddit has made it clear that I just can’t trust them to run a fair and functional platform. They do not take their obligations to their users, mods, and business partners seriously. If they don’t like the way the game is going, they’ll change the rules without warning. They will promise features they will not deliver even when those features are essential to their site working for the users who keep it alive.
I don’t want to help Reddit build what Reddit wants to make anymore.
I was actually fine with the reddit app. All I want is memes and some news. I left to support the rest of the communities that were adversely impacted by the changes
Hey thanks for the solidarity!
Mad respect for you
Sync stopped working :(
I think what reddit didn’t account for is that when sync, etc. shut down, I didn’t seek alternatives ways of looking at reddit. I sought reddits alternative.
I was on the fence about it until the Spez AMA. Then, I decided I’d be leaving on the 30th.
Then, I had a user call me “fucking stupid” for supporting a sub shutting down, and that was the final straw for me. I had seen how friendly people on Lemmy are and this showed me how toxic Reddit is by comparison. So I immediately nuked all my comments & posts and deleted my account. This was around two weeks ago and I’ve been much happier here.