• Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      6 months ago

      Keep belittling my principled and consistent opposition to the systematic extermination of entire ethnic, religious, or cultural groups, widely regarded as the ultimate crime greater than any other conceivable crime.

      Fucking liberals.

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        Sure, but the reality of the situation is that the guy running against Biden thinks we’re not killing Palestinians fast enough, while Biden at least verbally condemns Israels extreme response.

        Empty words considering his actions, but those actions have been the de-facto response the US Govt. has taken with Israel for over 50 years.

        It’s a shit spot to be in, like most things in America, but acting like voting against Biden/democrats will produce anything in progressives favor is extremely naive…to say the least.

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          You’re absolutely right, which is why most of us act like voting won’t produce anything and is a largely unimportant form of political action.

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            Well we got here because Republicans have a locked in voting block who votes for them no matter what in primaries/general elections, which has resulted in our slow descent into fascist policies.

            There absolutely should be protests and other forms of political action, but progressives constantly finding reasons to abstain from voting is exactly why we’re in the political climate we find ourselves in.

            Being present during every election and voting for progressive candidates at the state level is the only way to get us out of this long term. If that wasn’t the case, the fascists wouldn’t be constantly trying to induce apathy by convincing people voting is pointless/rigged.

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                Wut? You’re in a thread filled with people saying they’re not voting at all and I’m responding to a comment that reiterated just that!

                Quit being obtuse. I left reddit cuz it was impossible to have a genuine discussion about hot button issues…real sad this topic has exposed that lemmy is full of the same crop of people.

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                  How about you quit being a fucking stooge?

                  You’re having a fucking whinge about “progressives” who won’t “vote blue no matter who”.

                  How about the Biden administration not fucking fund a genocide? Why is that such a fucking hard ask? Why is that progressives fault?

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                    The only whining I see is a bunch of shortsighted idealists that clearly don’t understand how their government functions.

                    Biden isn’t the only person on the ballot, and the reason progressives have zero representation is cuz ya’ll never show up to fucking vote outside of a general election.

                    This exact same attitude is why Trump won in 2016, that’s the fucking reality of a two party ‘first past the post’ voting system.

                    So if you actually gave a fuck about our government funding genocides, which isn’t anything new if you’d bother to pay attention to anything past what’s spoon feed to you on social media, then you’d understand voting is the only real power we have as citizens to exact change, and abstaining from it allows others to decide for you.

                    But please, keep believing I’m whining for understanding the same concept the fascists are currently using to push their agenda.

                    Cuz clearly all those abortion protests and people bombing clinics are the reason Roe v Wade was rolled back, surely can’t be because republicans consistently voted in representation that openly said they would stack the courts in their favor and got what they fucking wanted. Nah that’s stupid.

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              It is literally impossible to not loose votes of at least some people when you commit genocide. That’s just how people work. Instead of trying to rewrite humanity, the Biden admin should work on improving itself.

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          Vote for slow genocide happening now, or vote for fast genocide later…

          There won’t be a Palestine by election day. Liberals have assured me that Biden has no power over Bibi, so how exactly is trump going got speed the genocide up?