The homeowner who fatally shot a 20-year-old University of South Carolina student who tried to enter the wrong home on the street he lived on Saturday morning will not face charges because the incident was deemed “a justifiable homicide” under state law, Columbia police announced Wednesday.

Police said the identity of the homeowner who fired the gunshot that killed Nicholas Donofrio shortly before 2 a.m. Saturday will not be released because the police department and the Fifth Circuit Solicitor’s Office determined his actions were justified under the state’s controversial “castle doctrine” law, which holds that people can act in self-defense towards “intruders and attackers without fear of prosecution or civil action for acting in defense of themselves and others.”

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      You make a good example of how many stand your ground proponent’s don’t understand proportional response.

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          so morons dont stand their and wait to be murdered in their own home by somebody violently entering it.

          Reality here shows you why you do use proportional

          Dont try to equate an equal force argument with a home invasion in progress. The home invader has already shown intent.

          Again, the reality is there was no ill intent. I don’t need to force an equal force here because its clear had it been used the kid would be alive. That is the point of proportional response. Killing anyone should not be done without proper due diligence which here it is arguable it was not. The kid was murdered because he made an innocent mistake while drunk. A mistake that happens often

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              Anything from shouting that you’re armed and will fire if they enter. Leaving the home if you’re able too. Warning shot. Visually confirming what you’re killing.

              Home invasions are rare especially if you’re not connected to criminal life yourself.

              And the kid fucked up. No doubt. Smashing a window, who wouldn’t think home invasion. But having a firearm to defend meant the home owner had time to take other actions and be safe. Actions weren’t taken. Actions that if taken would have prevented this death. Which is why many places don’t have these types of laws. Statistically you’re more likely to make a mistake than encounter a home invasion

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                Anything from shouting that you’re armed and will fire if they enter.

                So, give up your position and element of surprise letting them know where exactly you are.

                Leaving the home if you’re able too.

                Just give them the house, Morrowind rules.

                Warning shot.

                A) Illegal and B) because it endangers bystanders and is reckless and irresponsible.

                “Sorry I shot your grandma, I was trying to figure out if the dude making forcible entry to my home was an actual threat or was just out of Double Stuffed Oreos and the store was closed.”

                No, if you shoot, you do so because you need to stop the threat, you want those bullets to hit the threat and preferably stay in him, not zip out and endanger bystanders, nor miss purposefully endangering them more. Your advice here is not only illegal but dangerous and irresponsible, and nobody should follow it.

                Visually confirming what you’re killing.

                You mean like seeing an arm break a window and reach for a doorknob?

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                  So, give up your position and element of surprise letting them know where exactly you are

                  Yes, it isn’t Fallujah. Your position is in the house. Either they know your there or they don’t. If they don’t and you yell your armed the odds are they leave. Or in this case it would have opened a dialogue that would prevent the murder.

                  Just give them the house, Morrowind rules

                  You aren’t giving them this deed to your house.

                  Illegal

                  No

                  because it endangers bystanders and is reckless and irresponsible.

                  No it doesn’t. But I agree its a shame when innocent people die due to irresponsible gun owners

                  You mean like seeing an arm break a window and reach for a doorknob?

                  Unarmed hand but go back to first point about warning intruder you are armed and will fire.

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                    Yes, it isn’t Fallujah. Your position is in the house. Either they know your there or they don’t. If they don’t and you yell your armed the odds are they leave. Or in this case it would have opened a dialogue that would prevent the murder.

                    No but I don’t live in a closet either, I could be in the kitchen, the top of the stairs, the living room, the bedroom, etc, and he doesn’t necessarily need to know “oh I heard a noise from the left, let me wing a few shots that way.” Sure they could run away, or they could shoot at the source of the noise, and the only way to know is to take that chance. You’re welcome to take it, but I shouldn’t be forced to after he has forcibly gained entry to my house without permission by destroying a window. Imo “locks” count as a warning that you aren’t supposed to be in there, and bypassing them is ignoring warnings, be they verbal or nonverbal.

                    You aren’t giving them this deed to your house.

                    Right, just access to my family or pets for 11min average while I wait for the cops IF I remembered to take my phone to call them during my egress, egress I might add that requires me to either dive through my back glass door because I don’t have time to unlock it if I’m downstairs, or jump out of a second story window onto concrete if I’m upstairs. Sounds fun.

                    No

                    Yes.

                    https://www.usacarry.com/warning-shots/

                    https://gundigest.com/article/self-defense-warning-shots-good-idea/amp

                    https://ccwsafe.com/resources/in-self-defense-episode-72-warning-shots-defensive-display-and-the-power-of-light/

                    No it doesn’t. But I agree its a shame when innocent people die due to irresponsible gun owners

                    Yes it does, and I’m glad you aren’t a gun owner because you would be an irresponsible one, advocating for unsafe practices and pretending you know what you’re talking about. Let me guess you think celebratory gunfire is safe too?

                    Unarmed hand

                    Nah pretty sure it had an arm attached.

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                There’s nothing in the article about if there were words exchanged or not. It does say that there was audio and video evidence that was reviewed during the investigation so it’s possible they did try yelling at him. I think that’s something most people would do in a situation like this.

                No one should be expected to flee their own home.

                Warning shots are inadvisable because you are responsible for where those shots land and it removes the “I feared for my life” justification in the eyes of the law. If you fired a warning shot and accidentally hit the intruder Or someone else you would be charged for that.

                The intruder was shot in the chest through a window so we can assume he was visible.

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                  No one should be expected to flee their own home.

                  Its the safest and quickest way to deescalate. If your house is on fire you don’t try to stay and fight it yourself. You get to safety. Same goes for home invasion. I’m not dying to save $500 TV. Standing ground only makes sense as last resort.

                  you would be charged for that.

                  No. Warning shots are warranted in some situations which this is. It sounds like you’re expecting more self control for warning shot and not for a kill shot

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                    Can you find one state where warning shots are legal? I just spent ~20 minutes looking and couldn’t find a source that supports them being advisable at all let alone legal.

                    As for deescalating, I don’t believe anyone should have to deescalate when someone forces their way into their home. The front door is your last line of defense.