• spiderwort@lemm.eeOP
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    arrow-down
    17
    ·
    7 months ago

    But language cannot convey perspective. It can only refer to it. Language only works when perspective is shared.

    If perspective is not shared then, tho we use the same words, the meaning we assign to them differs. We may appear to be communicating but we really aren’t quite, there’s something broken there, and that brokenness generally gets translated as “this guy is just stupid”.

    This is a problem with language and the internet.

    • PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      edit-2
      7 months ago

      I know exactly what you mean!

      But there’s a really easy way to solve that problem: ask for clarification and then check to make sure your understanding of the concept matches theirs.

      For example, when you say “We may appear to be communicating but we really aren’t quite”, the meaning of the word ’ ‘communicating’ slides between different meanings. From my understanding, in the first case you mean a shared understanding of the terms under discussion, and in the second case you mean talking past each other, where people don’t really address the substance of the discussion.

      Right? And you’re saying this is a problem of language and the internet?

      If so, then I agree that it’s a problem of language, and one that language can just as easily solve. I don’t think it’s a problem of the internet, though, but the social dynamics of internet certainly don’t help.

      • spiderwort@lemm.eeOP
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        arrow-down
        12
        ·
        7 months ago

        Some opinions cannot be explained. For example “chocolate is better than vanilla”.

        There are a lot of those. It’s the earth upon which all argumentation stands.

        So at some point the question arises, “do I respect the individual?”

        But for us, on the internet, the individual doesn’t really exist?

        • snooggums@midwest.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          12
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 months ago

          “I enjoy chocolate more” and “I associate chocolate with positive memories” are both explanations that are still personal experience that isn’t necessarily shared experiences but can be understood through communication.

        • PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          7 months ago

          Aye, those are preferences and largely entirely subjective (because I prefer vanilla over chocolate).

          So at some point the question arises, “do I respect the individual?”

          This question is always there.