Exactly. Libs fantasies are even more ridiculous when youbthinknabout that fact. In 08, the public finally decided that the Iraq war was bad, the financial crisis hit and people did turn out to for the perfect avatar of libs theory of change.

Dems had total control of the government for two years - popular president, senate super majority, freindly 5-4 Supreme Court. There was literally nothing in the way of change the way they believe it happens. And what they got was worse than nothing, and capital got everything. Even the ACA was a huge win for capital.