There is only one conclusion possible: the war in Gaza is a war between two imperialist states.
We publish here an exchange of views with T, a contact in Germany, focusing on the mobilisations in support of “Freedom for Palestine”.
I am absolutely not reading this.
You will be shocked, as I was, when you realize the comrade from Germany is the one defending Palestine.
Rare unironic
The German left has some of the most embarrassing and brainwormed “leftists” this planet has to offer. The fall of the GDR was an unmitigated disaster for Germany. All that remains is a
society that’s outlived its usefulness. 
This reminds me of the positions of the major left groups in the city I used to live in. When I disagreed with them they were yelling at me that Hamas IS fascist and that settler colonialism is not a useful construct as it “divides workers” and Palestinians and Israelis need to unite, etc. It pisses me off that this chauvinism is so common with the orgs in my area and the West and they talked over anyone who disagreed. They even spoke over Palestinian voices present to tell them that there is a difference between their resistance and “useful” resistance.
Fuck them.
From my experience on october 7th there was two types of white leftists, first condemned Hamas because they throw women off of buildings, the other supported Hamas even though they throw women off of buildings, everyone else was confused why they thought Hamas throws women off of buildings.
not even gonna read this. terminally unserious topic. what Gazan state. what imperialism could they possibly have the capacity to do. you do not live in reality. you are playing with action figures and calling it politics.
In contrast to the comrade, we are convinced that Gaza is not only a national entity but that the regime in Gaza has also several functions of a bourgeois state: it collects taxes and has an army, a juridical apparatus, detention facilities, intelligence and police personal, etc. It is the Hamas de-facto administration which exercises these state functions and has, since 2005, under the direction of a highly centralised command centre, been able to fire thousands rockets into Israeli territory. There is only one conclusion possible: the war in Gaza is a war between two imperialist states.
Imperialism is when nations. Hamas collects taxes ergo its a nation ipso facto its imperialist. Checkmate.
TIL that the USSR wasn’t communist after 1930 because taxes.
More like 1921, as the well known imperialist ideologue, Lenin, explains (/s)
But more seriously i’m really amazed at the ultras ability to quote Lenin but always goes completely against the meaning. Just yesterday some dumbass on deprogram was arguing that Lenin supported imperialists against national bourgeoisie and as such communists should support USA against Iran.
No, you don’t understand, imperialism is when you fight people, and the Gazans are fighting fascists, meaning they are imperialist.
Imperialism is when thing I don’t like, don’t you that? Smh it’s just like how gommulism is something I don’t like too.
know it’s trots from a mile away lol
There is a pattern of trots becoming right wingers not because of any cynicism. It’s just the natural personal growth of a neocon.
Cool, they defend both Ukrainian fascism and now Israeli fascism.
This is why I hate fence straddlers. Choosing to say both sides are bad is an automatic endorsement of u.s imperialism.
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One part “false assumption that all actors are on equal footing and power level,” one part “confusing personal moral feelings for best geopolitical outcomes.”
i hate ultras
But the article is right when it says that the slogan “Palestine will be free, from the river to the sea” can only signify the ethnic cleansing of the Jewish population in the region between the Jordan and the Mediterranean Sea, “a Nakba in reverse”.
FUCKING REVERSE RACISM HOLY FUCKING SHIT I HATE THIS SO MUCH
P.S. Trotsky has sent in a silly letter. We shall neither print it nor reply to him.
Why even publish this drivel?
Captured org?
EXACTLY MY THOUGHT why the fuck would they put this up for anyone to see
Communism is when the government does something (domestic)
Imperialism is when the government does something (international)
uh huh
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Social relations are indeed superstructure (i think so anyway), but it is blatantly anti-dialectical to assume that changes in the superstructure do not impact the base. And it is even more absurd to ignore such dynamics given that they are the basis of literally all revolutionary movements.
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Well Lenin blah blah nothing nothing Lenin I said magic word Lenin…Palestine doesn’t exist and deserves to be trampled on because it is oppressed and not a socialist entity
blah blah Religious political (what the fuck do you think 
is?) Blah Lenin I said Lenin Lenin Lenin.Let me inject my bullshit pulled out of my ass shit and inject Lenin Lenin Lenin odut of context and without relevance.
So is “T” from
Germany a 
or an AI prompt or a dirty 
Hasbara?It’s easy to get confused on this one, but T from Germany is actually the one arguing that Palestine should be supported in its anti-imperialist struggle.
To be fair all other trots became the green voters and shed any sense of radicalism. So the remaining trots must be better.
Ultimate plot twist
The ICC reply (though I like how they do try to reply genuinely and honestly) boils down to “but the palestinian government is/would be capitalist too, so…”
This is the very bad form of class reductionism, the idea that oppression/genocide/etc doesn’t matter and isn’t imperialism because it’s not fundamentally along class lines.
Sure thing, ICC, but I don’t think the people of Palestine are in any position to do any revolutions while under the iron thumb of the US and Israel. Nor do I think many people will view communist organisations positively if they sit by, ambivalent about genocide.
