Tesla’s value plunged nearly $200 billion since mid-July – and the EV maker faces a bumpy road ahead::Tesla shares closed Tuesday at just over $233, well down on their 2023 peak of $291.

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    Teslas are boring. There are only 4 of them and they all look the same. (And the cybertruck is an abomination, sorry if you’re going to buy one; good luck surviving all the steel balls people will be throwing at you)

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      Nobody is going to buy a cyber truck because they will never be mass produced

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      What a stupid take, but par for the r/technology course.

      EDIT: The steel ball thing was terrible optics, granted, but that was also, like, the 5th time that ball was thrown at the window. Bullet-proof glass still spiderwebs when hit. Get over it.

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        No, they dropped steel balls onto separate glass pulled to the side, which didn’t break, then they decided to hurl steel balls at the prototype they had on stage. It broke the glass, twice. It’s on video, y’know?

        but par doe the r/technology course.

        Do you even know where you are?

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      Don’t worry Tesla owners, this guy’s better than you and all along knew that he should be buying hummers.

      This smugness from basement dwellers is flat out embarassing.

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        “If you don’t spend tens of thousands of dollars on a luxury car, you’re a smug basement dweller.”

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          Don’t own a Tesla, probably never will, just recognize the cringey basement dweller behaviour of everyone in here gleefully pretending like Tesla’s are any different just cause they don’t like the owner now. It’s a bunch of hater energy losers dunking on an easy target that’s uncool now. Congrats guys, you did it, you felt superior to others today.

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              I wasn’t, and don’t own and never have owned a car. I was insulting them for being haters which was made apparent by their hater comments.

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                If you’ve never owned a car, maybe you don’t know whether or not people are right to hate Teslas. Just a thought.

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                  Not owning a car doesn’t mean I don’t drive / rent / carshare them, and since when is owning a car a requirement for determining whether or not Teslas are aesthetically pleasing? I have eyes and go outside.

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            You’re 100% right but don’t expect r/technology to accept it.

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        Swing and a miss, sparky. I’ve been driving electric for the last 7 years but have no interest in Tesla for a wide variety of reasons.

        Also I literally told you why I don’t like them — there are only 4 of them and they all look the same; do you think maybe the fact that they’ve become so ubiquitous over the last few years and so samey could contribute to changed perceptions of them? What’s new in 2017 is old in 2023.

        Just try and be a better person/contributor around here. Smarten up.

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          there are only 4 of them and they all look the same

          Oh noooooo. Thanks for that single issue that’s entirely subjective.

          Meanwhile; they provide the best performance for the price, putting exotics 0-60 to shame. Have the best charging infrastructure. Get great range despite the recent hit pieces. And, for some subjective IMO goodness, are super fucking cool. I love the infotainmentcontrolwhatever way they handle things.

          But no, they’re just copy/paste pieces of shit. All hail anybody but Elon!

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              the amount of defects

              Please list them, and don’t bother with panel gaps that are either fixed for free on the spot or not long after.

              When you pay $45k and up on a product, it should not have a single defect.

              Somebody better tell this to Rivian and Polstar or, shit, any. other. manufacturer.

              nowhere near the listed range in their advertisements. so bad they are facing a lawsuit over it

              Get back to me when that lawsuit is resolved. I will say, I’m supposed to get 333 miles from my Model 3 LR and it’s closer to 280. There is reserve battery past 0% but we shouldn’t count that.

              They also have issues locking drivers in the vehicle when the battery dies

              Yes we all saw the article posted here a couple days ago. Curious, did you see the posts about how there are manual releases easily found and if you can’t find them you’re kiiiiiiiind of an idiot?

              They’re cool the first time you drive one sure

              Sorry, still cool 2 years later

              have caused several life ending accidents involving their self driving software

              Another sign you’ve bought into the bullshit. Manual controls override all AP/FSD activity and the drivers were at fault of every single crash. Find me a single instance where the driver was found to interrupt the system and it ignored them.

              So keep on sucking his dick

              You’re just admitting that you’re doing the polar opposite of sucking Elon’s dick. You’ve proved you’ve bought every single hit piece that came out. Congrats. I’m going to continue enjoying my marvel of engineering.

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                People really don’t even understand the whole range thing.

                All those multitude of real world tests out there that show a Tesla doesn’t get the advertised range aren’t doing the tests as the EPA tests are defined.

                Yes, a Tesla doesn’t get the advertised range when you go out of the test specs, shocking.

                The EPA says this is how we’re going to test the car. They even say, you can test it doing a partial test suite, or a full test suite. Tesla does the full test suite, while many others don’t. This costs Tesla more money, but does seems to work out to their advantage.

                I don’t doubt that Tesla then went, okay lets design the car (set the gear) to get a good range on the test the EPA is going to use so we can advertise a good number. The EPA set the rules.

                I can’t recall if it was the EPA or some other testing agency, but Tesla once even rejected their initial rating saying you did the test wrong and made them re-do the test (a door was left ajar or something), and the retest came out to the number Tesla was expecting and wanted to advertise. As per the other article something also went wrong once and the EPA made them lower it by 3%. So problems can go both ways, and both were fixed.

                Aside from Porsche who have a multi gear system in their power train, everyone else has to deal with the problem of a single gear not having the same efficiency across all speeds.

                There’s only a few other models out there besides Porsche (who’s different) that meet their claims at 70mph+ tests, which means they did one of two things. They either lowered their EPA approved number and advertise a smaller range than they are capable allowed, or they’re going to be less efficient elsewhere, but do good at high speeds.

                If you want to perform better at high speeds (70mph+) , you’re going to perform worse somewhere else in a single gear system, but I imagine most people care about the high speeds, and people don’t seem to care about real world 25-35mph tests where cars go well past their advertised range. I don’t really blame them for this, it’s what people care about.

                We really need to get the EPA to change their tests and make everyone do the same test, make the test better reflect real world driving scenarios, and probably make them advertise city/highway/high speed eMPG instead of just the single number.

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            They’re fine cars, they need a refresh is all. You’re reading way too much into this. They’re not copy-paste, they’re ubiquitous and as exciting as a Honda Civic in terms of looks, to me at least. 0-60 time is fun, but so are physical buttons.

            All hail anybody but Elon!

            You know he’s never going to marry you though, right?

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              You know he’s never going to marry you though, right?

              What? I thought you said this WASN’T r/technology?

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                The only person bringing up Elon Musk is you. The only person offended (apparently) on behalf of Elon Musk is you. Sort yourself out.

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                  I couldn’t give a fuck about Musk. He could die tomorrow and I’d say “Good for him.” What I think is hilarious is the assumption by you and others in these comments that my drive to correct them stems from some love of the ugy.

                  Sort yourself out.

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                    I couldn’t give a fuck about Musk.

                    Says the guy who a.) brings him up in a discussion that wasn’t about him and b.) doesn’t know where he is. Sure.