• hansl@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Sure, but how many people are casting uncommitted or seeing how unpopular Biden is and are going to stay home in November because of it? My guess is not zero.

    I get the protest and the timing, but it’s unclear if it’s really inoffensive in the general.

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      9 months ago

      You don’t get the protest then!

      If Biden fears this uncommitted vote movement then he will have to do something to stop it in its tracks.

      Using his power to stop the weapons and money transfers to Israel and using the words Ceasefire Now would be a start. If he starts doing concrete actions to stop ten year old children wasting away and dying of starvation then the uncommitted vote movement would be over.

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          9 months ago

          Then your phone is configured to open webp links as WhatsApp links, which is not the correct extension association.

          It’s an animated image.

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      9 months ago

      Then it sounds like Biden needs to take a firm anti-genocide stance to get those voters to actually vote, no? Do you think the number of Biden voters would decrease if Biden stopped the genocide?

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        9 months ago

        I think the number of voters in general will decrease if Trump wins, considering he wants to get rid of elections entirely.

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          9 months ago

          Do you disagree with the statement that Biden taking an anti-genocide stance, rather than his current pro-genocide with wrist slaps stance, would increase voter turnout?

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            9 months ago

            An honest answer: It would likely increase the progressive voter turnout, but I am unsure about the net effect. I would certainly hope it increases total overall turnout, but unfortunately a large chunk of the voting populace–including a lot of reliable Democrat voters–are still very much pro-Israel.

            That said, I would also like to confirm: Assume for the moment that Biden and Trump wins the nomination, and there is no change in the status quo between now and November (this is unlikely, given Biden’s recent shifts in policy signaling a possible change in trend, but I want to check against the worst case scenario). Would you still vote for Biden, or would you stay home? Would you staying home potentially affect the outcome (I.e. are you in a solid red/blue state like Alabama or California, or are you in a swing state like Michigan or Georgia)? What would need to change for you to vote for Biden in November?