The co-founder of failed cryptocurrency exchange FTX pleaded not guilty to a seven count indictment charging him with wire fraud, securities fraud and money laundering.

An attorney for FTX co-founder Sam Bankman-Fried said in federal court Tuesday his client has to subsist on bread, water and peanut butter because the jail he’s in isn’t accommodating his vegan diet.

  • lntl@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    arrow-down
    16
    ·
    1 year ago

    SBF is in prison and has been relieved of his freedom.

    The penal system must offer him a diet that satisfies his daily nutritional requirements because he is not free to do so on his own.

    The state is not required to support his “ethical beliefs.”

    • gmtom@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      19
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      Just give the guy vegan food ffs. Fucking Americans are so obsessed with making life as shitty as possible for anyone any chance they get.

        • gmtom@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          1 year ago

          Yes, I have, he’s a horrible person, but treating him poorly will not undoe what he’s done. And this goes far beyond this one person. The entire us “”“justice”“” system is based around this.

          • fluffyviciouskoalas@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            Well then, by that logic, nothing bad should ever happen to anyone regardless of what they do, meaning they’re now free to harm others as they wish.

            • gmtom@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              1 year ago

              What the fuck are you even talking about? Are you a troll or are you just thick as pig shit?

      • Reggito9345@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        6
        ·
        1 year ago

        He should be forced to eat the organs and flesh of animals, nothing green whatsoever, only flesh until the end of his days. He’s a monster so he should eat what they eat and not pretend he’s a fucking saint.

    • primbin@lemmy.one
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      7
      ·
      1 year ago

      I’d personally consider it pretty cruel and inhumans to force someone to violate their own ethics on a daily basis.

      • lntl@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        Then write your elected official if you have one. I don’t really care if he gets to live his best life.

      • Reggito9345@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        4
        ·
        1 year ago

        If it were up to me I would force him to watch slaughterhouse of animals being slaughtered then force him to eat meat from the same kinds of animals killed in the video, if it were up to me, he would never touch greens again as long as he’s alive.

    • NuPNuA@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      1 year ago

      They are required in most civilised nations. You’re just too used to America’s punishment focused prison system, look at the prisons in Scandinavian nations and how they treat their prisoners.

      • lntl@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        1 year ago

        I don’t think SBF needs rehabilitation or whatever the europeans call it. He needs a prison cell, 3 peanut butter sandwiches, and an hour of rec time… everyday… for twenty years.

        • Reggito9345@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          1 year ago

          Only flesh and milk for him. Don’t feed his made up vegan ethics nonsense, he needs to be miserable and eating meat that he despises is the perfect punishment for a little bitch like him.

          • lntl@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            1 year ago

            He robbed people of their savings. Imagine losing your retirement?

        • CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          1 year ago

          rehabilitation or whatever the europeans call it

          My god dude you’re like a walking parody. Please stop giving the US a bad name.

          • lntl@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            3
            ·
            1 year ago

            I have no shame in the believing prison can be used as a punishment. Shouldn’t be the only thing it’s used for, but it’s what this fella needs.

              • lntl@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                5
                arrow-down
                4
                ·
                1 year ago

                If SBF would reoffend I’d gladly pay the taxes to give him another twenty years of sandwiches. I don’t care about healing this man.

                • CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  arrow-down
                  5
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  Good for you, but I’d rather my money not be wasted on petty spite and draconian bullshit. I’d rather it actually go towards something useful, like rehabilitating people so they can be better and contribute to society.

                  • lntl@lemmy.ml
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    6
                    arrow-down
                    3
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    He stole 8 billion dollars from ordinary people. Maybe when he’s rehabilitated you can let him manage your money.

                  • monarchsonvacay@adding.space
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    4
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Well, I’d rather my tax money not be wasted denying people justice just to satisfy authoritarian twits like yourself, but who am I to disagree with you? I’m just a lowly meat-eater while all he did was steal billions from innocent people, taking away their retirements, and we all know we lowly meat-eaters don’t mean as much as the fluffy squirrels and singing birds you think are your friends.

    • BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      9
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Can the state require you to eat the body or bodily fluids of someone you affirm has rights to bodily autonomy, someone we know to be wholly innocent because they lack agency?

      • lntl@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        13
        arrow-down
        9
        ·
        edit-2
        1 year ago

        No.

        They’re required to make the offer. I believe the prison where he’s incarcerated has even offered him the option of vegetarian meals to complement his PB sandwiches.

        I think that’s a very generous offer that’s he’s used his agency to reject because he’s a fool.

        • BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          13
          arrow-down
          8
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          has even offered him the option of vegetarian meals

          That doesn’t necessarily work at all. Vegans don’t eat food that contain or are prepared with any dairy or egg product. It’s very likely all of their vegetarian meals are not Vegan accessible.

          • lntl@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            13
            arrow-down
            12
            ·
            1 year ago

            Sounds like he will continue to enjoy peanut butter then :)

            In case it wasn’t clear, you’re not corresponding with someone who cares if SBF is allowed to eat a vegan diet in prison.

            • BonfireOvDreams@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              7
              arrow-down
              8
              ·
              1 year ago

              It’s the precedent set for prisoners in general that you should have a problem with. He just so happens to be the one in the public eye that is affected right now. Forcing him to either go against his beliefs or be nutritionally deficient is not okay. Your feelings about SBF are not at issue. We can end this chain on that note.

              • lntl@lemmy.ml
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                9
                arrow-down
                7
                ·
                1 year ago

                Currently only religious beliefs are supported by the prison industry. If he couldn’t eat kosher, for example, I would agree that that’s a problem.

                What if he was pescaterian? Or on a Keto diet? It’s this zone that I don’t think the state needs to entertain. SBF happens to be vegan and vegan is in the region in my mind.

                I guess my question is: Is there a limit to the extent which the state should go to satisfy your dietary preferences?

                  • lntl@lemmy.ml
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    7
                    arrow-down
                    3
                    ·
                    1 year ago

                    Are you sure SBF is an ethical vegan and not a dietary vegan?

                • muix@infosec.pub
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  arrow-down
                  4
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  Veganism is not a dietary preference. Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for any purpose. Which happens to include food.