• Primarily0617@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    biden’s only selling point at the moment is that he isn’t trump, so with 6 months of campaigning and biden’s endorsement you could probably sell any democrat

    me giving you a name now is almost entirely pointless given that you’re just going to turn around and say that because they haven’t already done that campaigning you can’t imagine them being popular

    Reward? No. I want to stop the one who will make it worse.

    do you or do you not acknowledge that by voting biden you’re sending a message to the dnc that their voter base doesn’t care about genocide?

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      9 months ago

      I will answer that question after I am told who I should vote for that will stop Trump from getting into office. Because I haven’t been given a name yet despite asking multiple times.

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        You’ve literally asked me once, friend, and I explained why me giving you a name wouldn’t make any sense.

        I fully expect that in the hypothetical world where the DNC decides it doesn’t want to lose this election and decides to swap out Biden with somebody else that my gut reaction will be that they’re shit, but that’s because they haven’t done any campaigning yet.

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          9 months ago

          If there’s no one to vote for that has a chance of beating Trump other than Biden, I guess I’ll vote for Biden.

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            I know for the sake of pride you aren’t going to openly acknowledge this, given how pointedly you’re refusing to engage with anything I’m saying, but at least admit it to yourself: voting for Biden is sending a signal that the democrats can allow as much genocide as they want so long as they can convince you the other side will be worse.

            If you think that’s worth the trade-off, fine, but don’t pretend that that isn’t the trade-off you’re making.

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              The trade-off is stopping Trump from continuing the genocide in the U.S. that he and his Republican friends are already a part of and which my daughter would be a victim of.

              So yeah, saving my daughter’s life is sure as hell worth the trade-off.

              And I’m pretty amused that you think it sends that message after the primaries. Because the time to challenge Biden was before the primaries.

              Did you do anything about that? Did you canvas for any primary rival of Biden’s?

              Because if I’m sending a signal to the Democrats that “as much genocide as they want” is okay… unless you’ve been canvassing for Dean Phillips or Marianne Willaimson, I think you have been too.

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                If the democrats win this election while running a candidate that’s twiddling his thumbs over multiple genocides, then the next time they’re presiding over one, they’re going to have solid data that tells them that they don’t have to bother themselves about it because their voter base will elect them anyway.

                It’s really that simple.

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                  Your lack of answering my question is actually an answer.

                  You did nothing about Biden being the frontrunner. You did no canvassing. Yet somehow you bear no responsibility in your criticism.

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                    Similarly your lack of engaging with the point I keep repeating to you past an unsubstantiated “no” is also an answer.

                    Yet somehow you bear no responsibility in your criticism.

                    This is just whataboutism. I could be the guiltiest person on the planet, and that wouldn’t change the fact that electing Biden while he’s failing to stop three (?) genocides is a clear signal to the DNC that the amount of genocide happening on their watch has little to do with their eventual success or failure.