• masquenox@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    So I still don’t understand to be honest,

    No, you understand perfectly well - you are a simp for parasite ideology. Just like Ayn Rand was.

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      8 months ago

      That’s not an explanation… I am only asking to explain in other way, I could understand. I can admit, that I am wrong, if objective reasoning is heavy enough for me to say “yeah man, whis Ayn Rand is such a parasite”, but I don’t see it, or don’t understand

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          Well, you are getting paid for your work, by someone who managed to get the business going, all hard things aside.

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                  If workers want to, that could increase their professional aptitude to be able to maintain or work with new machines, making them more valuable and increasing their wages. If you are valuable you and your manager understands this - It’s in his self-interest to keep you on a workplace

                  In objectivism, you don’t encroach on others right to live, so the last one is obscure

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                Capitalism isn’t wage labor, it’s a specific mode of production by which individual Capitalists buy and sell Capital, then pay Workers wage labor to use said Capital to create commodities.

                If the entity is Worker Owned, it’s Socialist, as Capitalism requires Capitalists.

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                  In other words, worker is getting paid for creating goods/services for entity owner(capitalist in our case)?

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              8 months ago

              Firstly, that’s rude. Secondly, the only possible way I can pay her back is give someone else another life.

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                No, it isn’t.

                Did you or did you not pay your mother for all the services she has rendered to you?

                You can’t even apply Rand’s objectivist bullshittery to your own existence - yet here you are pretending you can apply it everywhere else.

                Put up or shut up.

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                  If you read about Rand’s philosophy, it is not a sacrifice to do something for the loved ones for free. Their happiness is your happiness, so it’s in your interest to make them happy. My mother never asked me to pay her back. I payback to foreigners and friends for their services. I don’t ask people to do something for me free, nor do something to others for free.

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                    not a sacrifice to do something for the loved ones for free

                    Good job proving what an irredeemable hypocrite Rand really was. So far, that’s the only substantial thing you’ve managed to accomplish.