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Hillary Clinton is warning about the legality of birth control in the wake of a decision by the Alabama Supreme Court that found frozen embryos created through fertility treatments are children under state law.
“They came for abortion first. Now it’s [in vitro fertilization], and next it’ll be birth control,” the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee and secretary of State said in a post on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.
“The extreme right won’t stop trying to exert government control over our most sacred personal decisions until we codify reproductive freedom as a human right,” Clinton added.
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It only makes sense that the club that’s been pushing abstinence only sex ed for however many years would move to ban birth control. After all, birth control is for sinners.
The same folks bemoaning birth control have endorsed state sterilization and euthanasia policies in the very recent past.
So much of this shit is just White Replacement hysterics with a legislative knife. The fixation on skin tone as a defining moral indicator has been the poison pill gagging this country since it was founded.
It only makes sense that the club that’s been pushing abstinence only sex ed for however many years would move to ban birth control. After all, birth control is for sinners.
There is also a contingent among conservatives who have been taught that birth control is tantamount to abortion. They think that since if an egg WERE to become fertilized it might not implant because of the birth control, that’s an abortion. (Even though as I understand it this secondary mechanism isn’t proven in hormonal BC.)
(As I got older and experienced the world I became far less conservative. My sister became more conservative. So I get to learn some of the crazy firsthand.)
The extreme right won’t stop trying to exert government control over our most sacred personal decisions
It’s not the extreme right, this is mainstream for conservatives. The extreme right is the one calling for eg. the extermination of gender / sexual minorities or non-whites (and the extremists aren’t nearly as rare as people generally like to think)
It’s not the extreme right, this is mainstream for conservatives.
You’re both right and wrong: the Republican mainstream has become extreme. Fascism, anarcho-capitalism and bizarre combinations of the two contradictory ideologies are extreme no matter how common they become.
The extreme right is the one calling for eg. the extermination of gender / sexual minorities
That’s already a pretty mainstream view/goal in the GOP. Most of them are just using coded language rather than outright saying it yet.
It’s not the extreme right, this is mainstream for conservatives.
Nonsense. Mainstream conservatism is the Democratic Party and they’ve taken a firm position of “We’ll say whatever we think makes the current audience we’re facing happy then hope this whole thing blows over”.
I’d like to see a statistic on that bcz I don’t think that’s accurate.
Are you seriously asking for a statistic for whether being anti-abortion is a mainstream conservative view?
Probably they weren’t serious, but why not take the moment to educate others and possibly even, OP. Sometimes facts can change minds.
Edit: That’s why I posted a direct response. You just never know who needed to hear that.
Yes I am. Conservatism is a spectrum, believe it or not, just like liberalism. You’re making broad strokes assumptions, that may or may not be backed up by any science. And guess what, I know conservatives that are ‘pro abortion’ and others who are more extreme and are very anti abortion.
And believe it or not, the guy in the white house right now isn’t a liberal, just bcz he puts a D next to his name.
Nobody is pro abortion. People are for having the freedom to make choices pertaining to their own bodies and it not be dictated by someone else. Pro abortion would just mean aborting every child and therefore the end of humanity. That is why they call it pro-choice. Those against it should honestly be called anti choice because they believe governments should control your births. Please keep the government out of my bedroom. If it pertains to a sexual act that involves consensual adults, it is no business of the government. That goes from flirting to birthing.
I am pro abortion but that’s mostly because I am actually a child hating psychopath who really just wants to watch humanity drive itself to extinction, for the schadenfreude, more than anything. I assume I’m not the only one.
Well no shit. You’re preaching to the choir buddy. It’s just the word I chose to use in my comment.
believe it or not
This is your tell.
Just like when Trump says “believe me”.
Just take a look at what people voted for and against repealing Roe vs. Wade. You can hopefully connect the dots from there.
I know conservatives that are ‘pro abortion’
And they’re always uninformed. I consider myself progressive and I find a ton of common ground with hardcore republican voters because most “progressive” beliefs are reasonable. Things like more social programs, higher taxes for corporations, and even abortion rights. They consistently vote against their best interests because of momentum or fox News propaganda.
Among Republicans and independents who lean toward the Republican Party who say abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, a large majority (78%) identify as conservative
Next women will have to marry their rapist.
Remember the anti abortion bullshit is from the same book, that mandates women marry their rapist!Remember HRC helped Trump win in the Republican primaries because she thought he’d be easier to beat.
These are the same people who tell you progressives and leftists are “too radical”.
We can’t defeat fascism without fighting moderates. They would rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists and progressives.
I mean, can you fault someone for thinking Trump was unelectable?
While Hillary/Democratic party are at fault how they treated democrats during that election cycle, I think the US at large was at fault for its overall outcome.
I think the US at large was at fault for its overall outcome.
I think these kinds of statements just seek to dismiss the very necessary conversations we need to have about the ineptitude or outright corruption of establishment Democrats which results in unnecessary losses or unnecessarily close races. I also think people are very quick to revert back from this broad blame attitude as soon as leftists or progressives state they’ll be voting 3rd party or write in. Ultimately moderates are the largest voting bloc in the Democrat party. If we assume the primaries aren’t straight up rigged by the DNC then it’s the moderate voters who control the outcome of the primaries. The lions share of the responsibility falls to them and yet they’ve done nothing to change course.
The lions share of the responsibility falls to them and yet they’ve done nothing to change course.
I think you’re agreeing with them here. There’s a point to be made that the voters are the problem too.
No. When moderates become the focus of the blame they deflect with “Well we’re all responsible.” but when progressives and leftists say they’re voting 3rd party or write in they’re like “You’re the reason why Trump won in 2016.” There’s never any moment where the moderates take responsibility for the garbage candidates they vote for in the primaries or their complete refusal to compromise with leftists or progressives despite desperately needing their votes.
Let me ask a hypothetical – if Sanders had been the candidate, would you have expected him to move a bit to the right to compromise with moderates and get their votes?
The whole “earn my vote” model often doesn’t consider the opposite. If you won’t vote for a moderate candidate because they haven’t earned your vote, why should a moderate vote for a progressive candidate if they feel their vote hasn’t been earned? What if moderates aren’t voting for progressives in primaries because the progressives aren’t trying to earn their vote?
I’m saying this as a progressive by the way. I think it’s a worthwhile critique that if moderate candidates need to earn our votes, so do progressive candidates. And if moderates don’t feel like their votes have been earned by the progressive candidate, it’s worthwhile for us to talk with them and explore why. I’m not going to deign to think that I’m right about everything and morally superior compared to them.
The whole “earn my vote” model often doesn’t consider the opposite. If you won’t vote for a moderate candidate because they haven’t earned your vote
I did though. I voted for Biden in 2020. I compromised and got nothing in return. I’m out. I’m not voting for Biden again. I’m voting 3rd party or writing in.
You’ve just demonstrated how backwards and ridiculous the thinking is. Moderates have gotten so used to winning elections on their own they don’t even realize when people are compromising for them. They take it for granted and then throw a hissy fit when expectations come their way. Even worse they have the audacity to call it “entitled”, “spoiled” and so forth. It’s a complete lack of self awareness.
Moderates would rather lose to fascists than compromise with progressives and leftists. It’s pathetic.
Yes, I can fault someone for thinking Trump was unelectable; any professional politician who thought that would have been incompetent. But more importantly, Hillary Clinton isn’t incompetent - she knew it was a risk, and she played Russian Roulette with the country. Beyond that, she has been part of the neoliberal establishment that has set policies that we know historically set the stage for fascism, for decades. It’s amazing to me that people can look at the most powerful, privileged, and entitled people in our country, and somehow think they are guiltless, but put all that weight on our fellow citizens.
Why did so many establishment Democrats get this one wrong though? I’ll tell you exactly why. They were/are so in love with their technocratic elitist bullshit that they had no conception of how fed up most of this country is with them.
Hillary was the most establishment candidate possible running against a political outsider with attitude in a country full of people who have been routinely ignored for decades.
It sure wasn’t obvious to me that Trump couldn’t win. I remember every single clueless thing Hillary did in that campaign raising my concerns a little bit more. It became more and more obvious as the campaigns went on that Trump was a serious contender.
She and the rest of the establishment couldn’t see the threat because their egos got in the way, and I do blame them for that.
I think they truly underestimated just how many deplorables there are, and how racist/misogynistic/homophobic they really are.
The “deplorables” were mostly already reliable Republican voters though, so I don’t think that was much of a factor.
The states where the election was lost were in the rust belt. The swing came mostly from. Obama to Trump voters. The commonality between the two is that both disengenuously ran as reformers.
Last I checked, Hillary wasn’t running this year 🤔
So?
So, your comment was just out of left field. By all means, I dislike Hillary and what her astronomical failure has lead us to and I completely agree that the DNC is borderline useless if not outright harmful, but your comment appears to shoot down the message just because of who it comes from.
The point here is focusing on the conservatives going after further reproductive rights issues and you’re over here going “both sides are baaaad!”.
Like, at the end of the day I don’t disagree with you, it was just kind of random lol.
I think it’s relevant to point out HRC is the reason we’re living in this reality.
That’s an absurd take. Fyi I’m from the UK and don’t have any skin in the game, but blaming the opposition instead of the people who are actually causing the issues is just bizarre and kind of self destructive. Yes the DRC made mistakes, but they aren’t responsible for what the GOP have done since.
HRC helped Trump win the Republican primaries in 2016.
That’s weird, because from my experience on Lemmy, leftists are far more hostile to me than I am to them.
Your hostilities are committed at the ballot box. You vote against our interests. You refuse to compromise with us. You blame us when your garbage pro-corporate, strike blocking, genocide supporting candidates fail to get elected in the general.
So you just remove the agency of everyone you disagree with and believe that makes you the victim?
Hey if you want to respect my decision to vote for 3rd party or write in the general election and take responsibility for picking a loser candidate in the 2020 primaries when Biden loses in the 2024 general then I will absolutely respect your agency. But we both know that’s not what you’re after is it? You want the agency to vote for whoever you want in the primaries and then turn around and lecture people for not supporting your choice in the general.
You like the control you have being a part of the majority voting bloc in the Democrat party, but you’re refusing to accept the responsibility that comes with it.
I voted for Bernie in the primaries, worked for his campaign, and donated the maximum personal donation. How about you?
I phone banked, canvassed and donated in the 2016 and 2020 primaries. I hated Joe Biden from the beginning but I voted for him in the 2020 general. He’s not compromised with leftists or progressives in any material manner so I won’t be voting for him again.
I’m not going to apologize for calling out moderates for being uncompromising pieces of shit and voting for procorporate trash candidates in the primaries. And you shouldn’t waste your time sticking up for them.
Leftists on Lemmy are hostile to everybody, especially other leftists.
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The good thing is most of the populace is growing to hate these fuckers. Lol They’ll be kicked out and never win another election. Ever.
Don’t count on it. We’ve been saying that since the 90’s.
Conservatism is a plague that must be dealt with. Voting is needed, but it’s not all that’s needed.
The cons are planning on fixing that little problem they have and it’s: majorities voting in things called elections.
This doesn’t align with how well Republicans are polling nationally right now in general election matchups.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2024/president/2024GeneralElection.html#!
This should be extra concerning to Democrats and good news to Republicans because in recent elections when the electoral college has been close, Democrats were ahead in the popular vote.
And after birth control women are going to be fined for having their periods, because each period is supposed to be a god blessed baby for Christ’s sake. THINK OF THE CHILDREN YOU HEATHENS!
Teaching them a lesson for leaving the kitchen. Seriously though, woman (and men) fought hard for their rights to their body. Now, they have less freedom. If they aren’t careful they could lose much more of it like in Afghanistan.
The more this develops the more I think it’s actually “replacement theory” bullshit. Religion is the only “acceptable” avenue to push this from as they know the majority of the population has no patience whatsoever for any disgusting discussion about “too many dark skinned people.” so they stick to “what God intended.”
I think they believe that white people get abortions and use contraception more than minorities so if they outlaw that then white people can’t become the minority population as they’re forced to carry to birth every fertilized egg.
“That’s why I’m pushing for an actual democratic primary and supporting progressive populist candidates and their broadly approved policies such as minimum wage increases and universal health care,” Ms Clinton did not add to her remarks.
Lol nah they’re using the tried and true strategy of…checks notes using actual fascists to bully people into voting for slightly less fascist candidates. Bold strategy, Cotton, let’s see if it pays off twice.
What’s the better play? Voting for third party candidates tends to split the vote and empower the farther right candidates, no?
There not being a better play doesn’t mean that play is a good one. It is a bad play, just the least bad one. What it means the system overall is broken and careening ro a crash, since the actually good plays are not politically viable. Mind you not that they wouldn’t be voter viable, but the gatekeepers who get to choose what is put in front of voters viably don’t want them there, that kind of politically non viable.
I think it was an American who said it that if people lose faith in the ballot box, they’ll take the soap box, if that fails, they will go for an ammo box. I think progressives seem to be at station 2, while the far right is skipping right to station 3.
I think progressives seem to be at station 2
Yeah because it’s hard for many of them to believe moderates would rather lose to fascists than compromise with progressives and leftists.
That’s what I’m planning on doing. People will be able to see my vote for a 3rd party or write in candidate. I’m not going to reward Biden for refusing to compromise with leftists and progressives. Moderates are the majority voting bloc and got him elected in the 2020 primaries. They will take the lions share of the responsibility when he loses in the 2024 general.
So you’ll help elect Trump to show everyone how pure you are and then tell the moderates it was their fault? That sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Trump WILL hurt you and the causes you care about in a worse and more permanent way than the alternative. Yes the choices are shit. There’s still a meaningful choice.
Edit: Maybe a better way to ask the question would be what would you need to be able to sign on to the less shitty choice, keeping in mind that too much leaning in your direction will shear off the more conservative moderates at the other end of the Democratic coalition. There is strength in unity. Unions teach us that.
There is strength in unity.
What unity? There were a wide range of progressive and leftist candidates running in the primaries. Moderates said “fuck all that we’re going with this old guy who’s gonna block strikes and support genocide”.
Moderates would rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists or progressives.
I just hope some semblance of democracy can continue as imperfect as it is.
Then you best get on the moderates for being uncompromising pieces of shit.
90% of these people are right wing trolls, trying to repeat the 2016 GOP traitor’s playbook. The more you engage with them, the more opportunities they have to spread this nonsense.
Yeah, that’s right. I don’t mean to feed the trolls so thanks for the prompt. I just figure some might just be young, immortal, angry, traumatized and idealistic and not able to appreciate the negative consequences of their proposed actions.
So you’ll help elect Trump to show everyone how pure you are and then tell the moderates it was their fault?
As someone who is a part of a wing which is too small for moderates to bother compromising with it’s impossible for me to help Trump. Moderates have been very clear that my views and vote don’t matter. Are they wrong?
That sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Have you said that to moderates who refuse to compromise with leftists and progressives?
Depends on the electoral map
Bernie didn’t win the 2020 primaries, get over it. Like him or not , Biden was the one who defeated Trump, and he’s in a decent position to do so again.
Sanders would’ve beat Trump in 2016, could’ve done it in 2020 and could do it now.
He’s the most liked politician in America, respected across the aisle, and gets standing ovation from Fox News Town Halls, because even if they disagree with his ideas, even your rank and file Republican can see he means well and is genuine.
2016 Bernie got sandbagged. Elites thought Status Quo would stem off populist rage, never looking at any cause of why there’s so much populism on all sides. It must be the candidates right? Its definitely not that 80% of the country still hasn’t bounced back from 2008, the news lies to us everyday and half the populace wants to fix it (left, which is in reality, center right) and the other half are a mix of accelerationists whive lost faith in change (justifiably) and want it to all burn down and opportunists (neo-nazi’s, fascists, and authoritarian theocrats - one big group that collectively, to the shame of their mothers, needs to learn to mind their own fucking business and stop trying to tell people what to do). 2020 was performance for Bidens cabinet from the start, it was suuuuuper obvious by the media’s handling he came pre coronated. I say this as someone who likes Biden. He’s been a stand-up family man his whole life and he’s pivoted away from corporate interests towards the people’s, not as much as I’d like, and it’s about 40 years late, but I like that it’s happening.
I wouldn’t mind Shawn Fein for 2028, especially if he pulls off a general strike on mayday, mid campaign. He’d be a fucking LEGEND then.
The DNC, liberals, have got to look around and realize that the status quo is a tough pull to swallow. Both sides of the aisle HATE corporations, those in the center work for them and politicains on both sides are bought and paid for by them. The dip shits who make up the WEF, who think we’ll all be happy not owning anything, from the outside, seem to want to incite a real life purge. I don’t think they actually mean too, I think they’re too far removed from normality, that they think they’re better and smarter than us rubes, and that if violence broke out, they’d survive it…in a country with more bullets than IVs, and full of veterans who watched their friends die for rich greed. I think the rich are preeeeetty fucking detached from how precarious their situation is. Jamie Dixon and Larry Fink have both been squawking, on record, that profits before people isn’t working and the business class needs to pivot, but it doesn’t seem like many are listening.
It also doesn’t help that when Bernie looked to have the lead “suddenly” all the so-called “LibErAl MeDiA” decided to run story after story about “Bernie loves Castro!” “Bernie said nice things about communism in Cuba!” “Bernie loves Cuba!”
CNN cut Bernie off at a rally to show 45min of an empty podium, until Trump started. Trump was on time btw, CNN just thought an empty podium was better for democracy than Bernie’s campaign.
I haven’t watched, or clicked on anything CNN since. I hope their pundits and their CSuite all end up homeless.
Unfortunately they have gotten even worse as the heads of the corporation have been quoted as saying something to the effect of “Fox news actually has a great model to emulate, they have actual journalism (try to hold the vomit) between all opinion shows.”
They want to be another fox news…
Biden had our help in the 2020 general because some of us believed he was willing to compromise with leftists and progressives. Four years later we know he isn’t. I won’t be voting for Biden again. I will be voting 3rd party or a write in.
Bullshit. A vote for 3rd party is a vote for Trump. Hey ho, the trolls are here!
Aren’t you the kind of person who blamed “bernie bros” for Hillary’s loss in 2016? Can’t have it both ways my dude.
What you say…and your conclusion
Do not meet in reality.
Biden has moved the Dems left. He’s more left than Clinton or Obama were. He walked a picket line for fucks sake, first president ever.
Does he have more room on the left to move too? Shit, he’s got as far as the eye can see, but hes panned further left than he even campaigned on. Saying otherwise is disingenuous, so much so, that I don’t think you voted for him at all.
He walked a picket line for fucks sake, first president ever.
When I say “compromise with leftists and progressives” you think walking on a picket line is sufficient? No. That’s pathetic. Here’s some real compromises to be made:
- Don’t block strikes. Vow to veto any attempts to block a rail strike in his next term.
- Stop sending weapons to Israel.
Saying otherwise is disingenuous, so much so, that I don’t think you voted for him at all.
You gave a pathetic example that did not have any meaningful impact on the lives of Americans. The UAW was already on strike and well on their way to getting what they were fighting for. Showing up to a picket line doesn’t make up for blocking the rail strike.
I’m not sure if you’ve noticed but Biden’s approval ratings are way down since he was elected. If you think I’m just some troll fine. Whatever. But I gotta wonder where you believe the people who did vote for him and disapprove of his actions are voicing those opinions? Or do you just accuse everyone who says they aren’t voting for him again of being a liar?
Like him or not , Biden was the one who defeated Trump
Did he? I’m still seeing a ton of Trump’s policies enforced at the federal level.
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She didn’t need to mention anything about a primary because the push to criminalize abortion is coming at the state and local levels. Vote for progressive local representation and that will do lot more than Biden ever could
Vote for progressive local representation and that will do lot more than Biden ever could
Which the Clintons, Obamas, Bidens, Yellens, Powells, Pelosis and all the rest will fight with the help of Boomers for being too radical.
These people would rather lose to fascists than compromise with leftists and progressives.
Gotta protect that critical Texas House seat for Henry Cuellar or the Squad might get another member, which would be the worst thing ever.
the push to criminalize abortion is coming at the state and local levels
TIL, the SCOTUS is a municipal court.
Friendly reminder that the current House Speaker insists that accessing abortion services amounts to a Holocaust.
Did you see the part where I talked about progressive populist candidates? That’s not about a presidential race. The Democratic Party has made a habit of sabotaging popular progressive candidates at all levels, and Hillary could actually do something about that. And if we had a real majority in congress, we might see things like nationwide abortion protections passed.
Probably because she is smart enough to know that populism is always dangerous
Y’all know it’s the end of February right? The time for whinging about no better candidate was a year ago. As usual you’ve waited too late. You better build up candidates years in advance to have a chance at running them. Which unfortunately no one really wants to do on the left. Every single leftist candidate will be cannibalized by the left itself. That’s why we almost get never get them.
We’ve been talking about this since 2015, but kudos on your attempt to move the goalposts.
I was on the BC pill for years before I was ever sexually active - my periods were so heavy that I became severely anemic and sick.
Literally the pill and some prescription iron tablets for a time were all I needed, none of the other shit I was given for months before 1 woman doctor thought to prick my finger and see if the drop of blood sunk in the solution or not.
It pretty much stayed towards the top.
I had to drop 2 classes that semester as a result. I was so pissed.
At least she wasn’t completely useless for this and actually said the word abortion. I haven’t heard much from democrats suggesting or pushing any policy or solutions to this crisis. They seem to just leave the field open to let the republicans dominate the discussion.
They treat it the same as Republicans did, a talking point to rally around. That is, until the Republicans actually did something and stacked the Supreme Court. They could have codified roe when Obama was president, but I don’t think they even tried or considered the possibility that roe would be overturned.
Now that roe has been killed, women have shifted significantly blue. Why the hell would they actually fix the issue when they can campaign on it for the next decade at least?
They could have codified roe when Obama was president
Or when Clinton was President in '92 or when Biden was President in '21. Multiple opportunities, but they all meant staking a position as a party and not being 300 little local independent influencers, trying to soak up as much campaign cash as they can before the next wave year tosses them out.
You need 50 Dem senators willing to overturn the filibuster or 60 in favor of abortion. Unfortunately, we’ve never had those numbers.
It’s much more of a problem that we can’t find even 10 Republican senators who are willing to enshrine abortion in some fashion.
You need 50 Dem senators willing to overturn the filibuster
Which they have had on repeated occasions.
When?
1993, 2007, 2021…
Hell, Bill Frist offered to blow up the Filibuster with the Nuclear Option back in 2003. A minority of Dems could have simply let him, rather than caving on Judicial nominees.
There were not 50 willing to kill the filibuster in 2021. Manchin and Sinema were against it.
No kidding. IIRC, Trollito and Coke-can Clarence both signaled they hate that right as well as a few others…so tired of these creepy weirdos having so much undue influence over this country. They don’t represent any kind of majority.
That’s why John Oliver’s offer to that aforementioned coke-cantard makes a lot of sense.
Yep they’ll be ridiculoued and they’ll never win another election. They’re morons.
Oh you’d be amazed. There’s a lot of conservatives who tacitly support this shit, they just don’t wanna air it out loud.
I don’t know. There are a lot of dumbasses that will vote for the likes of donnie and will never vote for a Democrat because they just cannot imagine doing so (no matter how much sense it makes).
Then there are the ones that I’m sure pop a chubby at the notion of emulating the Saudis and telling the womenfolk here they can’t even drive a car, nevermind imagine that they control their own bodies. Those freaks will probably always be a certain part of the population.
Soon jacking off will be a crime
I mean they are literally passing laws which require attaching your real name to your porn habits. So yeah, I’d say it is 100% the goal to leak this stuff and eventually, openly persecute people for it.
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Probably just to blackmail, at least at first.
Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson:
It scans all the activity on your phone, or your devices, your laptop, what have you; we do all of it,” Johnson told the panel about the app
It sends a report to your accountability partner. My accountability partner right now is Jack, my son. He’s 17. So he and I get a report about all the things that are on our phones, all of our devices, once a week. If anything objectionable comes up, your accountability partner gets an immediate notice. I’m proud to tell ya, my son has got a clean slate.”
Ahh yeah. Nothing has helped my relationship with my son like cold distant surveillance.
My accountability partner right now is Jack, my son. He’s 17
Ah yes, I’m sure a 17 year old teenager has found absolutely no way to watch porn other than his (now infected) phone. Nope. No siree.
That, and if this dumbazz thinks his son is not yanking it because he infected his phone, he’s about as deluded as it gets.
So Jack no Jack off?
These people won’t stop till its literally illegal to be naked by yourself without some homely chapped-ass chaperone
Amusing as it is, nah. You’ve all got the conservatives pegged wrong. They don’t want abortions, they just want people abandoned for sake of their twisted virtue signaling. It’s perfectly acceptable to have a baby then abandon it in a dumpster. They also like their porn and booze. Most preachers are guilty of a hentai fetish or some weird shit. Jacking off will be a crime if it’s to gay porn only.
You’ve all got the conservatives pegged wrong.
I’m pretty sure they’re against that too, at least until you get them alone.
Or maybe being single will be a crime? A fantasy dreamed up the utterly deranged.
I’m sure there’s a relevant bible verse that can be used to justify that.
There’s that one where “and Jesus spoke unto his flock, ‘maketh my words weapons, and ye shall have the word of God to force women to have sex with you for all eternity’ and everybody clapped”
Uh oh, the incels won’t be happy with that at all. Same with the MGOTW bunch (who are probably also just incels, too, if we are being honest).
Blessed be the fruit
May the Lord open
I wish she would follow in the footsteps of all other 2 time losing political candidates and fall off into obscurity and never be heard/seem again.
Its easy to forget that, back in 2002, she was the US Senator from New York rubber stamping a bunch of Bush Era federal judges.
Now she’s here to “warn” us. Uh… thanks.
She is 100% correct.
But she is not helping. She can’t help. She is not liked. At all.
Same problem with Al Gore warning against climate change. He was right, but because of who he was he was instantly dismissed but all conservatives and even some liberals.
Sometimes, it’s better to have enough self awareness to let someone else speak for you.
She could help by disappearing from public view and donating some of her ill-gotten gains to key races. But no, she prefers to keep flapping her jaw in public.
Just keep a poster of her in your room, instant celibacy.
Condoms used to only be legal for married couples.
Get ready. As long as conservatives have any power at all, they will use it to oppress the normal people. They always have.
Yep. Call them what they truly are: creeps, weirdos, perverts and freaks.
It is not normal to want to police others to the extent these freaks want to be able to do. Something is deeply wrong with them. It’s on us to point this out at every turn. They are so creepy.
Hey, isn’t this the lady that campaigned with Henry Kissinger, traitor and war criminal?
Yeah. Correct message, awful messenger that most people think should have faded out of politics when she was the main non-Russian reason for Trump being inflicted on the nation.
Don’t really need her to say it when the Supreme Court justices said it themselves.
