New Futurama is just as good as old Futurama. Fight me.
Arrested Developments Netflix seasons, though different from the original run in format, I found them enjoyable and worth rewatching.
Game of Throne’s last half sucked but not because it went on too long, quite the opposite. The producers tried to rush the series to a quick finish so they could go do a Star Wars. HBO offered them extra seasons, they had plenty of source material they downright ignored or went against. The series was best when it was verbatim from the books. In the hands of someone who cared it could have been twice as long and quality all the way through. Obviously I’ll die on this hill.
Couldn’t agree more on the rest of your list. Westworld would have been a tight one season limited series.
Yeah I think we actually agree on GOT - it is on my list because it suddenly took a turn for the worst in the last 2 seasons. I’d have loved it if they’d just made it all and followed the books.
Who knows, maybe GRRM might have been motivated to finish them if it had gone down that way.
This is a great list except for Futurama and formatting issues.
Post-movies Futurama quality improved. I’d say it’s on par with the first 2 seasons but not as good as 3-5. The bad episodes can still be funny and the good episodes are absolutely worth it.
@GlitterInfection have I fixed the formatting? I’m on kbin and lists with no enter between them look ok but I did sort of wonder if they don’t on Lemmy.
I’m super old and started not liking Futurama over a decade ago. You guys are convincing me to give it another watch.
I thought the final tv season ended so brilliantly, though!
Each character ended up on a journey that looked nothing like the one they expected. Miranda’s self-protecting cynicism was worn away with the love of her family. Charlotte’s perfect dream husband and children came in the form of an imperfect, but lovely, Jewish man and an adopted daughter. Samantha let a guy occupy space in her life outside of the bedroom. And Carrie’s final manic depressive flight of fancy into a Parisian romance ends with her realizing that her dreams are naive and she ought to settle for the wealthy Mr big dicked New Yorker who likes her for some reason.
The first time I watched the show I hated Mr Big. But on each subsequent watch it’s more and more clear that Carrie was the issue in that relationship. Especially in the earlier seasons. Yeesh.
@GlitterInfection you’ve made me realise I should give it a rewatch. I get the feeling time and age will have really changed how I view some of those characters!
Season 4 of Westworld changed it from “Too Long” to “Too Soon” for me, personally. I didn’t really care for season 3 when it aired, but season 4 made me more forgiving of it, retroactively. It seemed like they were setting things up in season 5 which required season 4, which in turn required season 3. Especially given the nature of the show, it felt like they were building some grand story which required these banal meanderings that would all make sense when they clicked into place at the end.
Now I’m really curious what they were planning in 5 and it looks like we won’t get to find out.
That’s how I felt after S3, but I gave S4 a shot and it justified a lot of the decisions I didn’t care for in S3. Maybe S5 would’ve disappointed, maybe not, but it seemed like it was going to be the last season and I would’ve at least given it a chance to fully redeem itself.
I maintain that Big Bang Theory had 6 amazing seasons spread out over 12.
If someone with too much time and effort to spare could run through and edit out every nerd joke for joke sake, every episode that doesnt advance the characters and so on you would wind up with 6 seasons of damn good tv.
Too soon:
Raised By Wolves
Santa Clarita Diet
GLOW
Utopia (the UK version)
Happy Endings
Freaks and Geeks
Popular (did anyone else watch this?)
Firefly
Too long
Big Bang Theory
The Simpsons
Master Chef
Sex And The City
TWD
Too long because started great but went suddenly downhill:
Westworld
Futurama
Arested Development (that final season omgwtf)
Game of Thrones
New Futurama is just as good as old Futurama. Fight me.
Arrested Developments Netflix seasons, though different from the original run in format, I found them enjoyable and worth rewatching.
Game of Throne’s last half sucked but not because it went on too long, quite the opposite. The producers tried to rush the series to a quick finish so they could go do a Star Wars. HBO offered them extra seasons, they had plenty of source material they downright ignored or went against. The series was best when it was verbatim from the books. In the hands of someone who cared it could have been twice as long and quality all the way through. Obviously I’ll die on this hill.
Couldn’t agree more on the rest of your list. Westworld would have been a tight one season limited series.
Yeah I think we actually agree on GOT - it is on my list because it suddenly took a turn for the worst in the last 2 seasons. I’d have loved it if they’d just made it all and followed the books.
Who knows, maybe GRRM might have been motivated to finish them if it had gone down that way.
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Good point!
This is a great list except for Futurama and formatting issues.
Post-movies Futurama quality improved. I’d say it’s on par with the first 2 seasons but not as good as 3-5. The bad episodes can still be funny and the good episodes are absolutely worth it.
@GlitterInfection have I fixed the formatting? I’m on kbin and lists with no enter between them look ok but I did sort of wonder if they don’t on Lemmy.
I’m super old and started not liking Futurama over a decade ago. You guys are convincing me to give it another watch.
Much better, yes!
Also I loved the original series of Sex and the City. The movies and beyond were a mistake, though!
@GlitterInfection thanks for that! I’d been thinking how great it is to not have to keep pressing enter. Too good to be true.
I liked the first 3 or 4 seasons but I felt it started flanderizing and also I was over Mr Big but he just …kept being a thing.
I thought the final tv season ended so brilliantly, though!
Each character ended up on a journey that looked nothing like the one they expected. Miranda’s self-protecting cynicism was worn away with the love of her family. Charlotte’s perfect dream husband and children came in the form of an imperfect, but lovely, Jewish man and an adopted daughter. Samantha let a guy occupy space in her life outside of the bedroom. And Carrie’s final manic depressive flight of fancy into a Parisian romance ends with her realizing that her dreams are naive and she ought to settle for the wealthy Mr big dicked New Yorker who likes her for some reason.
The first time I watched the show I hated Mr Big. But on each subsequent watch it’s more and more clear that Carrie was the issue in that relationship. Especially in the earlier seasons. Yeesh.
@GlitterInfection you’ve made me realise I should give it a rewatch. I get the feeling time and age will have really changed how I view some of those characters!
Futurama seems ok now? People seemed to enjoy the recent season
@otter have to admit I haven’t seen it in a long time, should check it out and see if it’s returned to form.
I remember in about 2011 thinking “huh, glad I didn’t buy that Planet Express t shirt after all.”
Arrested Development should be in both the too soon and too long lists.
True. The hiatus killed it.
I’d say the same about Futurama
I think it was timing too, something about scheduling… Can’t remember but anyway yeah, too much time had passed.
Season 4 of Westworld changed it from “Too Long” to “Too Soon” for me, personally. I didn’t really care for season 3 when it aired, but season 4 made me more forgiving of it, retroactively. It seemed like they were setting things up in season 5 which required season 4, which in turn required season 3. Especially given the nature of the show, it felt like they were building some grand story which required these banal meanderings that would all make sense when they clicked into place at the end.
Now I’m really curious what they were planning in 5 and it looks like we won’t get to find out.
@agamemnonymous ah that’s interesting. Yeah my partner preferred S4 to S3 but I felt the whole thing had jumped the shark.
That’s how I felt after S3, but I gave S4 a shot and it justified a lot of the decisions I didn’t care for in S3. Maybe S5 would’ve disappointed, maybe not, but it seemed like it was going to be the last season and I would’ve at least given it a chance to fully redeem itself.
I did watch S4 with my partner, just didn’t enjoy it.
I maintain that Big Bang Theory had 6 amazing seasons spread out over 12.
If someone with too much time and effort to spare could run through and edit out every nerd joke for joke sake, every episode that doesnt advance the characters and so on you would wind up with 6 seasons of damn good tv.