Hello everyone,

Opening that thread following the latest discussions on !moviesandtv@lemm.ee.

I am now suggesting to retake this community or create another one that would be more structured, especially

  • weekly “what have you been watching lately” thread
  • dedicated threads for shows and TV. Discoverability of those threads would be eased by having a research bar in the sidebar.

What do you people think? Should we use this community, or create another one? If the latter, what would be the name? /c/moviestvreviews? /c/moviestvdiscussions? Feel free to share your suggestions

  • ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝@feddit.ukMEnglish
    1·
    7 months ago

    Bold suggestion:

    There is literature.cafe for books and instances for RPGs, video games, etc why not one for film and TV?

    You could have communities for genre or specific types of film (giallo? Slasher?) or regional films (French film, German film, etc).

    Big films/shows or franchises could get their own communities.

    There are various communities around that could move over to help get everything moving.

    • Blaze@reddthat.comEnglish
      1·
      7 months ago

      Hello,

      Thank you for your suggestion, always happy to see you here.

      Since the fall of lemmy.film, seems like no one wanted to manage a movies instance.

      It might be nice to have it in the future, but I guess right now we only have communities

      • ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝@feddit.ukMEnglish
        1·
        7 months ago

        Since the fall of lemmy.film, seems like no one wanted to manage a movies instance.

        I’d forgotten about that. However, there are many reasons an instance fails. There’s no obvious final message, it just looks like @jayrod@lemmy.film (using a federated link to get old messages) went MIA 7 months ago and the instance carried on for a couple more months. This seems common - it happened on feddit.uk when the original Admin’s enthusiasm waned. We came close to setting up a new instance and migrating everyone there but we got a message through and we were able to switch it over to a new sever and are just now working on funding. So it wasn’t that there wasn’t interest in keeping the instance going from the users but if you have a single point of failure (something else we’ve worked to correct) then, eventually, it will fail. It doesn’t mean it isn’t viable.

        @kingmongoose7877@lemmy.ml I believe you were the other Admin - any insight?

        • kingmongoose7877@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          7 months ago

          Dearest ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝,

          Yes, I was the other admin @ lemmy.film, “second in command” if you will. No, I have no insights regarding what happened over there as it wasn’t my server/instance. You nailed the timeline of events; after many attempts to contact @jayrod@lemmy.film, just like all of you, one day I went to lemmy.film only to see that Cloudflare “Web server is down” page. Hey, fun while it lasted and all that.

          If I may (now that you’ve woken me up), I think it’s kind of…dickish uncool…for this community to steal appropriate the graphics from !moviesandtv@lemmy.film. I mean, they weren’t mine or anything but still. Grave robbing, anybody? What does it take to come up with something new?

          • Blaze@reddthat.comEnglish
            2·
            7 months ago

            If I may (now that you’ve woken me up), I think it’s kind of…dickish uncool…for this community to steal appropriate the graphics from !moviesandtv@lemmy.film. I mean, they weren’t mine or anything but still. Grave robbing, anybody? What does it take to come up with something new?

            It was more as a hommage than anything else. Do you know where it came from?

            Also, you might want to raise those concerns to !moviesandtv@lemm.ee, they are in the same case

        • Blaze@reddthat.comEnglish
          1·
          7 months ago

          So it wasn’t that there wasn’t interest in keeping the instance going from the users but if you have a single point of failure (something else we’ve worked to correct) then, eventually, it will fail. It doesn’t mean it isn’t viable.

          What I meant is that at the end of the day you need at least two people interested in managing an instance on that topic.

          Nobody wanted to do this so far (we barely get enough moderators already, and adminis are even fewer), but maybe this might change in the future.

          In the meantime, I guess we’re here.

          And indeed, I had followed the whole thing on feddit.uk, it’s nice that you were able to save it

  • spaduf@slrpnk.netEnglish
    01·
    8 months ago

    I would really love to see a /c/moviestvdiscussions explicitly. In an ideal world you’d see more direct support from existing movie/tv communities as most of those mods do not seem interested in the extra work. Otherwise, I feel like direct competition with the larger communities will act to everybody’s detriment. That said, I did suggest this to @Djinn@lemm.ee and it looked like they simply downvoted and moved on, so that is obviously not ideal. On the other hand, a larger contingent making this suggestion may convince them.

    Another path forward may be to reach out to !movies@lemmy.world and !movies@lemmy.ml for links in order to drive traffic here. The former of the two seems to have previously hosted such threads but appears to have stopped (maybe due to the moderation requirements?). If done correctly, this may leave the fediverse more connected while improving the overall quality and levels of content on each community. Given enough momentum !moviesandtv@lemm.ee may find it difficult to remain in opposition to this project.

    • Blaze@discuss.tchncs.deOPMEnglish
      01·
      8 months ago

      Thank you very much for this suggestion.

      I like the idea of having a community clearly dedicated to discussions too, but I guess that can be something we decide after we get a few more people active here. Maybe we can just keep this one and have clear rules on what type of content is allowed.

      I might post to !movies@lemmy.world, but I’ll probably have to contact the mods first as it might seem rude to promote a similar community on theirs.