I’ve said since the kickoff, on [2023-10-10] when I first saw it, that the “Hamas is destroying Palestine” narrative was straight from Haaretz. Of course this was later vindicated by Hamas revealing they had foreknowledge of an Israeli offensive, not the other way around as enemy media claimed.

I find this very funny. Allegedly the other guy who runs this is off working on projects. Thing is he told me he was going on vacation right before that. One of these projects is getting rid of all the youtubers. This video was sitting there the whole time! Hello! Plus, BE just posted this.

So again you don’t need to assemble the dossier. Just wait for their reality to crumple into the black hole known as the Bab El-Mandeb strait. Also I’m done, everyone is acting scary online right now. I was told there would be africa news?

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        Most leftist content creators were out there supporting a straight up mass murdering Nazi including the one Hexbear is in love with. If one edgy tweet is your bar there’s literally nobody left. BE regularly supports LGBT in his videos. How long are you going to keep going on about one tweet.

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          You do understand that I’m allowed to not like somebody because they act like a cringy teenager and don’t give a shit if they say harmful stuff about my community, right?

          If you take the opportunity to attack an entire community the second one of them makes a bad take, you are bigoted against that community. I’m not gonna watch somebody when they’ll randomly take a swing to the left and attack his supposed allies. Has he since apologized for this statement? Because if he hasn’t, I have no reason to forgive him. He can eat shit.

          Who the hell are you even referring to when you talk about “the one hexbear is in love with?” Are you talking about Hasan? Because I certainly don’t care for him either. He’s just a leftist flavored dude-bro.

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            Who the hell are you even referring to when you talk about “the one hexbear is in love with?

            Nazi fangroup ChapoTrapHouse. Hexbears largest community.

            You do understand that I’m allowed to not like somebody because they act like a cringy teenager and don’t give a shit if they say harmful stuff about my community, right?

            Exclusively focussing on your own community and constantly bringing up 2 year old tweets while ignoring way worse things other creators do is just selective hatemongering.

            You don’t see me constantly bringing up stuff in every thread about content creators who said something I didn’t like once. Especially when said content creator is actively opposing a genocide. Hell I’ll post Hasan, Mamdani and other content if it’s good, despite not liking everything they do.

            But you’re more important than that of course. All Palestinians can die because the people supporting them aren’t pro-trans enough for your liking. They need a good ol smear campaign when they dare support Palestine. Because demonizing all Palestinian allies is really going to free them. I’ll call up Iran too and tell them to stop supporting Palestine too and first work on their LGBT situation.

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              How does chapo trap house being feds make another guy with the same job any better? Kill most influencers. Also have gotten way more accounts banned from hexbear than you 😤😤 (as far as I know). I’m not on their bent of branding people as permanently evil for making a mistake. I just see that people are often guided by their worst impulses when they are deceived by outlets telling them to bash antiimperialist movements.

              Look I remember this feeling of needing these people to stay informed. Online groups, fandoms for “content creators”, you can transition out of that. None of these people telling you that Hamas is destroying Palestine are going to help you understand the world. It needs to be made easier. Current tools are inadequate even for organized teams of pros. Purity testing is GOOD. It helps us refine a practically infinite flood of information into something USABLE.

              Edit: come to think of it, why can they see this? This account got banned for anti-western left shenanigans (being right too early) fucking ages ago. Actually, wasn’t it twice? The maniacs go right for permaban if you talk back to them it’s entertaining

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                BE doesn’t say Hamas is destroying Palestine at all. This is the only 7 second out of context clip in an 1.5 hour long video. And a statement he’s literally walked back by himself months ago and admitted to be wrong on, without some harassment campaign demanding him to do so.

                Even people like Finkelstein who wrote books instead of doing online activism have made plenty of mistakes and taken far less extreme positions. Most “influencer” are no different than those writing lefty blogs or books in the end.

                An on purity testing he agrees as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDWubUPhVaQ

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                  Sure we can come back to this if you like, if that isn’t enough for you to relinquish one parasocial relationship, let’s go through everything he’s ever said instead of the worst things. Let’s get into his tactics and what they all share, regardless of professed ideology. Wiki will be up soon (allegedly, and my DMs are not being answered, maybe I can write it on Walmart receipts and mail them out to all of you if silence persists). After all it’s nothing personal, sometimes it seems that way as an argument can be a good way to find your own blindspots. The objective is an infohazard that kills everyone who has ever watched any of these videos.

                  I mean, if I wanted to get personal I would go into how he has wasted time on stalking the actually useful people I know. But he isn’t important, and neither are they. It’s gotta be about the structure or this is just a random ideological mugging on a website nobody visits.

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                Tell me do you say the same about Norman Finkelstein? Because everything you said here about BE and much worse applied to him.

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                  I am not going to bat for a single fucking person. I don’t give a shit about Finklestein. I’m specifically talking about BE at the moment and I’m tired of you detracting from the conversation. You need to take a close look at why you’re so vehemently defending some asshole who doesn’t even know you exist. Stop pulling this “whataboutism” bullshit and just admit you don’t care about the concerns many trans people have for your favorite piece of shit streamer.

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                    I’m specifically talking about BE at the moment and I’m tired of you detracting from the conversation.

                    It’s not whataboutism you just can’t seem to understand the selective application.

                    Finkelstein literally wrote a whole book on how woke people are "destroying college campuses. Do you see everyone showing up in every comment section going “uhhmm akshually Norman Finkelstein is a really bad person”?

                    The only actual reason people love going so hard on the single edgy 2 years old BE tweet is because in reality they just want to defend their favorite shitstain full Nazi streamer. Mainly Hasan Piker or ChapoTrapHouse. And BE is the only one calling those people out because the rest all want to keep their cozy reputation with the lefty establishment.

                    BE has defended trans people plenty of times in his videos and written content and if you genuinely think that a single edgy tweet would be discarding then by your own standard no single leftist would even be allowed to walk the earth but there’s no way you’re actually upholding that standard.

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                  “what about this other guy nobody has mentioned at all” lol fuck off

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                    “What about this other prominent activist for Palestine which is in many ways compareable but way worse where I don’t ever bring this up because I know my own minority status isn’t so important to disrupt activism against a literal genocide right now”?

                    Can you really not understand it?