• isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 days ago

    It’s a not wisdom of individual builders. They obviously will go for the cheaper option. It’s more a wisdom of the crowds/market. A lot of folks outside the US have a cultural aversion to the American style of home construction. There’s a lot of areas of the world where even if a builder could affordably construct American-style stick-framed houses, that they simply wouldn’t sell. Look how some folks lament the “cardboard, sticks, and glue” that make up American homes, as if an inch-thick OSB panel is in any way comparable to the cardboard boxes used to package food. Even things like “tape,” as though the purpose-built and engineered weather-sealing “tapes” are in any way comparable to common masking or Scotch tape. It’s like denigrating a well-engineered concrete house as “just a pile of rocks.”

    Americans have more of a cultural attitude of impermanence. It wouldn’t say it’s anything like the Japanese, but it’s still there. There’s an old saying, “in Europe, a hundred miles is a long distance. In America, a hundred years is a long time.”

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      1 day ago

      I don’t hate the style, I’m fairly well versed in it actually.

      But yeah, they’re pretty fragile. There isn’t a typical house in the US you couldn’t cut clean through with a sawzall. No problem. Whatever.

      My point was there’s no fucking wisdom in it, there’s no thinking about the future, there’s zero planning ahead. Wisdom of the market my fucking rosy red asshole.

      There is absolutely not some grand master overlord scheming about the next upgrade and how to implement it.

      It’s some fucking dipshit trying to afford more oxys by using the cheapest shit he can.

      And they’re sure as fuck not using inch thick osb. Christ they don’t even use that in commercial unless it’s both mandatory and expected to be inspected. 3/4 might be code, 5/8 is what gets used, except everywhere 1/2 will do. Furthermore, OSB, at any thickness, is fucking trash that disintegrates at the first whiff of moisture. You ever see a house in florida with OSB?

      But no, the fucking plan, the great wisdom of the market, is to build a sodden pile of shit, that is worth less than any work you might put into it in ten years, pay to have it demolished, and then pay to have it rebuilt.

      Meanwhile, the owners of the house built in 1927 are cutting it off the foundation, excavating it, and adding an extra floor. For less money. Some of the lathe and plaster might crack.