- cross-posted to:
- degoogle@lemmy.ml
- cross-posted to:
- degoogle@lemmy.ml
I’ve been using a de-Googled Android setup and found myself running into the same issue a lot of people probably do: the privacy-first option is great right up until the everyday stuff stops working properly.
In my case, banking apps and Android Auto were the sticking points. GrapheneOS was excellent in principle, but iodéOS ended up being the more practical fit for my actual use case.
I’d be interested to hear where other people draw that line between privacy, convenience, and reliability.
That’s the tradeoff almost everyone eventually makes.
How does iodé/os differ from e/os? Seems they are both able to run android apps?
I really miss a technical comparison between GrapheneOS and iodéOS in this blog post. Does that mean iodé passes integrity attestation? If yes, how do they do it? How is it degoogled if it relies on Google services?
No, it doesn’t pass the “strong” integrity attestation. None of “custom” ROMs does.
It’s degoogled in the sense that it doesn’t run original Play Services, but runs open source microG implementation instead. It still talks to the Google services and it still maintains the connection to Firebase Cloud Messaging for push notifications. MicroG sends out less sensitive infromation, but still does talk to Google.
The reason why banking apps didn’t run on GrapheneOS but ran on iodeOS is probably one of two:
- either the author hasn’t disabled additional GOS protections (e.g. native code debugging) which shitty banking apps tend not to like
- or the apps rely on the Play Services (mocked by microG on iodeOS out of the box), and the author hasn’t installed them
Sounds like the author did not try with google play services or microg. On GOS they could have made a separate profile just for auto, banks and google play services.
This is due to the personality of Daniel McCay, who confirmed he had schizophrenia.
That’s why many people are turned off by Graphene, by the way.
Banking apps and Android Auto don’t work because a dev has schizophrenia?
I’m on grapheneos. My 3 banks and all sharing apps work ootb
Some banking apps do work, actually. Specifically, community credit unions still don’t have the DRM as far as I know…
I would say most do work! As long as you have the requirements met, meaning Google Play Services or microg.
https://privsec.dev/posts/android/banking-applications-compatibility-with-grapheneos/



