A for profit will ultimately err on the side of profits. Any messaging or behavior suggesting they actually care about the consumer is only in service of profits not in service of the consumer aka it’s fake.
I never said anything about morality. Honestly within the confines of what is legal business isn’t too concerned about morality because the goal isn’t morality or ethics. The goal is increasing profits.
But ultimately it is still run by humans who make a choice about what they’re deciding to do. They are not faceless, mindless automatons roaming the countryside gobbling up capital and turning out enshittification. There are people specifically making these decisions. Why argue as though it is immutable fact? The world can always be changed. As you say elsewhere in the thread people can choose to be different. There just doesn’t exist better motivation and opportunity to do so. Perhaps spreading awareness with discussion and memes helps create that. Would you argue that discussion would be fruitless because people can come to that conclusion without discussion, even though discussion makes it easier?
I think I would reframe this. Companies will do what they believe will make them profits aka the guy in management is going to get a raise or the CEO is going to get a pay increase / stick options because their profits increased due to their choices. Now if a community of people can put a large enough financial incentive (positive or negative) on a company they will ultimately change their behavior. If for instance today everyone started boycotting companies with practices they disliked then most definitely they would change and likely whoever was in charge before would be fired or punished somehow. They’re not going to change just to make people feel better or happy, no one cares about that so long as the money is flowing in a for-profit.
There is a middle ground between a nonprofit coop and a business that screws over its customers. Do you only think in extremes?
A for profit will ultimately err on the side of profits. Any messaging or behavior suggesting they actually care about the consumer is only in service of profits not in service of the consumer aka it’s fake.
I think you’re confusing being able to explain their behaviour with it being moral and just behaviour.
I never said anything about morality. Honestly within the confines of what is legal business isn’t too concerned about morality because the goal isn’t morality or ethics. The goal is increasing profits.
But ultimately it is still run by humans who make a choice about what they’re deciding to do. They are not faceless, mindless automatons roaming the countryside gobbling up capital and turning out enshittification. There are people specifically making these decisions. Why argue as though it is immutable fact? The world can always be changed. As you say elsewhere in the thread people can choose to be different. There just doesn’t exist better motivation and opportunity to do so. Perhaps spreading awareness with discussion and memes helps create that. Would you argue that discussion would be fruitless because people can come to that conclusion without discussion, even though discussion makes it easier?
I think I would reframe this. Companies will do what they believe will make them profits aka the guy in management is going to get a raise or the CEO is going to get a pay increase / stick options because their profits increased due to their choices. Now if a community of people can put a large enough financial incentive (positive or negative) on a company they will ultimately change their behavior. If for instance today everyone started boycotting companies with practices they disliked then most definitely they would change and likely whoever was in charge before would be fired or punished somehow. They’re not going to change just to make people feel better or happy, no one cares about that so long as the money is flowing in a for-profit.