• Cethin@lemmy.zip
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    I don’t think so. There are a lot more people willing to call themselves racist than leftist. Leftist policies, when not called leftist, are incredibly popular, even with Republican voters.

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      Then maybe you shouldn’t make a big deal of calling yourself ‘Progressive’ or ‘Leftist’ or ‘Communist’

      Mao said that the revolutionary swims through the population like a fish swims through the sea.

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        I personally call myself an Anarchist, but I agree. If we’re trying to sell an idea, it’s best not to give it a name. Just describe it and it’ll propogate if it’s a good idea.

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          Yeah, the only “real” label I apply to my self is Absurdist and that doesn’t really have much to do with politics. Labels are artificial. They’re an abstraction to make communication easier.

          In politics, you kind of need to go beyond the surface level communication, deeper than labels, to get to the good stuff. Most people agree on most things (1: leave me the fuck alone 2: I like money 3: I like to live in a good neighborhood, whatever that means) so when you take the leftist issues and describe them abstractly, they usually fit neatly within those motivators.

      • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Leftist is what the Democratic Party calls me. More left than progressives or Democratic Socalists.

        But compared to other liberal nations, Democrats are center right, and Democratic Socialists are centrist. The Republican party was far right in the Reagan era. Now it’s radical extreme right.

        Right now according to the Republican party, the Democratic party is communist, and degenerate.

        But we’ve seen actual socialist democratic societies like Grenada and Revolutionary Catalonia and I think we should aspire to those.

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          And this is why political labels are less than useless.

          Back in the day, Fiorella LaGuardia ran for NYC Mayor on a Fusion Ticket that included Communists, Socialists, and Republicans.

          The 1956 GOP Party platform is Left of where Mamdani and AOC are today.

          The Netherlands are a monarchy.

          If you actually want progress, stop talking about labels and work to get good people elected.

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      That may well be true but until those people are activated and organized into a political movement that has the power to demand concessions, don’t expect things to change. That’s all I’m saying.

      And yeah that means we are going to need to work with people who have disgusting views on some issues.