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A Russian warship fired warning shots near a UK-registered yacht in the English Channel on Tuesday morning after the two vessels came into close contact.
Russians acting like a bully, despite being in another country’s territorial waters. Nothing to see here comrades
Isn’t the English channel in between France and the U.K.?
Wait, why are France and England even allowing Russian warships to pass through the channel?
Because it’s an international waterway
Being transited by a nation that is under sanction…. Doesn’t really matter if it’s international.
Do you actually think the sanctions involve stopping warships in international waters, a literal act of war against a sovereign country?
So I decided to go look up this stuff and you’re wrong on literally all counts.
First thing. It’s not even a fucking international waterway. It’s French or British territory. The entire North Sea, Baltic Sea, and English Channel are within 200NM of land.
Second thing: it’s not an act of war. It would not be with the intent to start a war, it would be with the intent to enforce sanctions, agreed upon by a large group of nations. Not only that, but it would be with the intent to stop warships from transiting your territory. Finally, it could literally be done in international waters because Russia has purposefully damaged underwater national property in places like the Baltic Sea, like cables and pipelines. Oh and it’s also to prevent a country that started a war against another country from transiting your territory.
Good fucking grief, any fucking knob can say whatever they want that would be disproved by five minutes of research and people upvote it. This took me two minutes to look up.
You know, you’re right - a better term might’ve been freely navigable waters.
But that actually doesn’t make much difference. The 200 nm range you mentioned is the exclusive economic zone, which relates to stuff like oil rigs and fishing. Outside of specific situations, a country’s jurisdiction extends at most to 24 nm (the contiguous zone), which would make most of the English Channel and Baltic and North Sea usable to anyone.
Beyond that, I’m not sure what to say about the rest of your comment because we’re talking about a warship firing at a civilian vessel. This isn’t a shadow fleet tanker or hauler of stolen Ukrainian wheat, there’s no plausible way to interpret interfering with them as sanctions enforcement.
Outside of specific situations, a country’s jurisdiction extends at most to 24 nm (the contiguous zone), which would make most of the English Channel and Baltic and North Sea usable to anyone.
…. The channel is 17NM wide at the narrowest.
Beyond that, I’m not sure what to say about the rest of your comment because we’re talking about a warship firing at a civilian vessel. This isn’t a shadow fleet tanker or hauler of stolen Ukrainian wheat, there’s no plausible way to interpret interfering with them as sanctions enforcement.
Uh what? We’re talking about stopping a Russian warship that is leading shadow tankers through the straight. That’s literally exactly what the sanctions are there to stop. Did you read the article?
At this point it is very very clear you’re talking out of your ass. The channel is very narrow, well within the 24 NM YOU referenced. And the sanctions are literally there to stop exactly this, which is a Russian warship leading shadow tankers to avoid sanctions.
…. The channel is 17NM wide at the narrowest
And 130 at its widest, and substantially wider than the Strait of Dover throughout most of its area, so again there’s tons water outside of their jurisdiction.
Uh what? We’re talking about stopping a Russian warship that is leading shadow tankers through the straight. That’s literally exactly what the sanctions are there to stop. Did you read the article?
“Net, ship is there for unrelated reasons.” I think you’re being a bit naive. (accidentally hit post) Nobody is going to sanctions to warships, even if they’re escorting a sanctioned ship.
Quick we need another special operation to distract from the current special operation.
