• Ricky Rigatoni@piefed.zip
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    2 months ago

    This would be a better argument if eliminating jobs didn’t mean the people who used to work that job die in poverty if they can’t adapt to a new job.

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      2 months ago

      It isn’t an argument at all, merely fact. The dynamic applies regardless of whether we like it or not. Jobs will be eliminated, some humans will be made redundant and be unable to adapt into higher-value labour.

      At that point, the only real choice in the matter is whether society pays these people to sit around and do nothing (welfare), requires them to work a meaningless job or lets them die of poverty.

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        2 months ago

        When there is less work to do, god forbid we get creative. Like having all the people doing less work overall. No, let’s gamble on the lives of some people. These people!

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          2 months ago

          Especially americans could do with some more vacation days. Between fewer work days and fewer hours per work day I’d probably choose the former.

          Where I live we have 5 weeks of paid leave every year, ends up being a pretty nice balance.

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        2 months ago

        Unfortunately, too many people (and almost all US politicians) consider “let them die of poverty” to be the correct and moral choice.

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        Or we could have free higher education to help people learn those skills rather than say fuck em if they dont have the money to pay for it

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          Even with free higher education, there are people who either don’t want to or can’t participate. Here in Sweden for instance we’ve had huge troubles integrating the MENA migrant wave of the 2010s into the job market, despite education being not just free but compensated by the gov:t.

          A decade after the fact and this group is still hugely overrepresented in unemployment unfortunately (>5x). Many fuckups in that puzzle, but availability of education isn’t one of them.