It’s shocking how many people stay ignorant of the obvious.

Just like how the freedumbers were the russia pawns as well.

This comment suggests that these people are being “tricked” into believing something they don’t. Canada is not “falling” any more than it ever has, because it has always existed to do what these movements intend to do, which is to extract and generate profit. None of this would be effective if there was actually a popular opposition to liberalism and fascism in Canada, but the culture is already conducive to those ideologies because it is a settler-colonial state built according to their imperatives. If the trick is meant to be that these people are voting against their best interests, then like, what are the Oil Sands then? Some genuine benefit? What about all the other ways in which Canada reproduces and violently defends a system that works to the detriment of all but the wealthiest and most privileged in society? Carney is a neoliberal and has unsurprisingly used the advantage of this moment to expand state investment in private capital, is he a Russian plant?

Many settlers choose fascism because they would rather secure privilege in a failing system than risk their security by committing to meaningful and substantial change. The reality is that these movements are an inevitable consequence of capitalist systems as their extractive pursuit of profit begins to disrupt the hierarchy within the metropole. Middle class Canadians are hurting more than any of us can remember, as short as that memory may be, and they have readily embraced racist, ableist, and classist policies that target vulnerable groups as solutions to problems inherent to capitalism, like housing and employment insecurity. Canada is not being “corrupted” by foreign actors, these groups are capitalizing on preexisting conditions in Canada, and because Canada has always been like this, those empowered by this hegemony readily comply and profit themselves.

Refer to my other comment in this thread, but no, this is not “manipulation” any more than any form of capitalist and liberal reaffirmations are manipulative. They are in that this system socializes people to hold capitalistic values, and so these people make choices that are consistent with those values (which are always to their detriment, not only at this point), but to call this the result of “outside actors” is deeply dismissive of the fundamental elements in Canadian culture and its way of life. Carney has openly supported the expansion of fossil fuel industry in Canada, is he some Russian spy? I doubt any more than any neoliberal is.

You’re too focused on responsibility and punishment. Reality doesn’t care, we have what we have to work with. Albertans are deeply influenced by the fossil fuel industry in the same way Canadians are not only deeply influenced, but dominated by the interests of capital and extractive settler-colonialism. Nothing is different here from Canadians wanting to seperate from US imperialism only now that there is a perception that they are “uniquely picked on and punished,” despite this state’s complicity in that brutal violence. Our entire standard of living and way of life is built through that violence, and guess what, it was to everyone’s detriment and that itself is only acknowledged now that we deal with the inevitable decay of that system and the environmental/economic turmoil that it has wrought. It’s not like Canadians have responded to this threat by acting in solidarity with colonized people in the global south or demanding systemic change. Instead, they have strengthened ties with other imperialistic and capitalistic powers. Go figure.

Refer to other comment, bootlicker.