Personally I will give Sir Keir a chance. I know lots of people hate him (the left think he’s too right-wing, the right think he’s too left-wing). I think he’s a pretty decent person though. Look at the alternatives - Farage and Kemi Badenoch - who would surely make the UK a more hostile place to live (unless you’re wealthy and white of course).
Maybe Sir Keir will ultimately be replaced by Andy Burnham. Burnham seems alright I guess but I don’t know tons about him.
Strange you only mention Farage and Badenoch as alternatives, why is that? Greens Poll better than Labour so it can’t be polls. Lib Dems won more councillors than Tories, so it can’t be election results…
Okay sure I probably should mention more alternatives. I doubt the Greens will lead the next government, but I suppose it’s theoretically possible. Then there are a few alternatives from Labour looking to replace Sir Keir as PM: Wes Streeting, Angela Rayner, and Andy Burnham who I mentioned before.
Personally I think I prefer Labour and also the Lib Dems to the Greens because the Greens apparently want to leave NATO and give up the UK’s nuclear weapons. I think the UK should probably keep its nukes until a time in the future (if such a time ever comes) where all nuclear countries negotiate that they will all disarm together.
As for the Labour alternatives to Sir Keir (Streeting, Rayner, Burnham), maybe they could do well. Burnham seems alright. But the disruption might be a bad thing. Shuffling leaders is what the Tories did and I don’t think it did them many favours.
I was mostly questioning the selection. Why Labour and Tories?
At risk of repeating myself:
Greens beat labour in polls, it’s not polls you were going by, else you wouldn’t have mentioned Labour. Lib Dems beat Tories in this election, so it’s not election results, else you wouldn’t have mentioned Tories. 2 was a fine number, just strange picks.
For what it’s worth, I think Reform are winning the election too.
They’re still polling relatively well and by the time the general election rolls around, they could be in better positions.
I think Reform are winning the election too
I guess the problem is that the anti-Reform vote is split among multiple parties. I would guess that Labour is the best-placed party to defeat Reform but yes they would need to make some big changes to pull in Green voters, Lib Dem voters, and even SNP and Plaid voters too.
Gosh, I hope not. But, I acknowledge we might disagree on that
I guess the problem is that the anti-Reform vote is split among multiple parties.
There is a solution to that. After IDs we can acknowledge no referendum is required for election changes. Then push through Proportional Representation. Helps that labour have been elected on that premise before. PR naturally positions the center as the most powerful entity too, even in extreme times such as these.
Right, bring in the boomers, the oldies, that will make labour connect with the youth
Personally I will give Sir Keir a chance. I know lots of people hate him (the left think he’s too right-wing, the right think he’s too left-wing). I think he’s a pretty decent person though. Look at the alternatives - Farage and Kemi Badenoch - who would surely make the UK a more hostile place to live (unless you’re wealthy and white of course).
Maybe Sir Keir will ultimately be replaced by Andy Burnham. Burnham seems alright I guess but I don’t know tons about him.
Strange you only mention Farage and Badenoch as alternatives, why is that? Greens Poll better than Labour so it can’t be polls. Lib Dems won more councillors than Tories, so it can’t be election results…
Okay sure I probably should mention more alternatives. I doubt the Greens will lead the next government, but I suppose it’s theoretically possible. Then there are a few alternatives from Labour looking to replace Sir Keir as PM: Wes Streeting, Angela Rayner, and Andy Burnham who I mentioned before.
Personally I think I prefer Labour and also the Lib Dems to the Greens because the Greens apparently want to leave NATO and give up the UK’s nuclear weapons. I think the UK should probably keep its nukes until a time in the future (if such a time ever comes) where all nuclear countries negotiate that they will all disarm together.
As for the Labour alternatives to Sir Keir (Streeting, Rayner, Burnham), maybe they could do well. Burnham seems alright. But the disruption might be a bad thing. Shuffling leaders is what the Tories did and I don’t think it did them many favours.
As authoritarian and corporate as Starmer, but more oily and more likely to ruin the NHS. Please, no.
I was mostly questioning the selection. Why Labour and Tories?
At risk of repeating myself:
Greens beat labour in polls, it’s not polls you were going by, else you wouldn’t have mentioned Labour. Lib Dems beat Tories in this election, so it’s not election results, else you wouldn’t have mentioned Tories. 2 was a fine number, just strange picks.
For what it’s worth, I think Reform are winning the election too.
They’re still polling relatively well and by the time the general election rolls around, they could be in better positions.
I guess the problem is that the anti-Reform vote is split among multiple parties. I would guess that Labour is the best-placed party to defeat Reform but yes they would need to make some big changes to pull in Green voters, Lib Dem voters, and even SNP and Plaid voters too.
Gosh, I hope not. But, I acknowledge we might disagree on that
There is a solution to that. After IDs we can acknowledge no referendum is required for election changes. Then push through Proportional Representation. Helps that labour have been elected on that premise before. PR naturally positions the center as the most powerful entity too, even in extreme times such as these.
Proportional representation would be good. I doubt that Labour will bring it in though unfortunately.
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