Hi everyone! I’ve been meaning to make this post for many weeks now, but haven’t gotten around to it.
I wanted to put forth to the BBT community if we should migrate off-world to a different instance. It’s been something on my mind for a lot of reasons to include LW being just too big and making things centralized making me not want to contribute to my own comm
However because of recent events regarding LW (https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/25750862 https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/67858553) I’m now getting this done
So what say ye BBT, move the BBT comm to another instance (probs lemy.lol) or stay, there will be 2 comments. One for stay and one for go, upvote your chosen option. I’ll be checking votes, so no plankton shenanigans :) the highest upvoted in a few days will win
Upvote this comment if you want BBT to migrate
I’m ok with moving it to another instance, although I would also hope the community would consider a piefed instance.
Piefed.zip does seem pretty awesome ngl
It is! I was originally from lemm.ee because the admin was cool and had a hands-off approach by giving users autonomy to block instances they don’t like, instead of taking it upon themselves to block stuff on behalf of everyone else. Then .ee closed down so I moved to lemmy.zip because the admin has similar instance policies. Then piefed was born, so I just moved to .zip’s own piefed instance. Everything has been smooth sailing so far.
Now, I might be biased, but I think my instance is the best ;)
Set sail, matey! Whatever port calls to you, but I’m overjoyed that I’ll still get my surreal spongebobs and Friday congratulations even if LW goes through with long-term defederation.
I’m good with whatever as long as I get my congratulations sailer posts on fridays
I think unfortunately the Lemmy World admin team has demonstrated a consistent record of unacceptable, immature, biased and petty behavior.
I recommend all communities move off of Lemmy World.
Lemy.lol seems like a good fit, but iirc piefed.social has defederated.
D: say it isn’t so @rimu@piefed.social :(
It is so, because of the fascist frog logo.
That actually didn’t make sense, but I haven’t really kept up with Pepes history, so I looked it up
No, it was never supposed to be nor did it during its initial rise in popularity, those shit bags are trying to steal it, and the original creator hates what they try to appropriate it for
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepe_the_Frog
originally an apolitical character in Furie’s works and its original internet popularity, Pepe was appropriated from 2015 onward as a symbol of the alt-right white nationalist movement.
The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) included Pepe in its hate symbol database in 2016, but said most instances of Pepe were not used in a hate-related context.
Since then, Furie has expressed his dismay at Pepe being used as a hate symbol and has sued organizations for doing so; the history of Pepe and Furie’s attempt to dissociate the character from the alt-right were covered in the 2020 documentary film Feels Good Man.
In 2019, Pepe was used by protesters in the 2019–2020 Hong Kong protests; conversely to its western political use, Pepe the Frog’s symbolism in Hong Kong is not perceived as being connected with alt-right ideology, and was welcomed by Furie.
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In May 2016, Olivia Nuzzi of The Daily Beast wrote that there was “an actual campaign to reclaim Pepe from normies” and that “turning Pepe into a white nationalist icon” was an explicit goal of some on the alt-right.
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In an interview with Esquire, Furie said of Pepe’s usage as a hate symbol, “It sucks, but I can’t control it more than anyone can control frogs on the Internet”.
Fantagraphics Books, Furie’s publisher, issued a statement condemning the “illegal and repulsive appropriations of the character”.
The Anti-Defamation League, an American organization opposed to antisemitism, included Pepe in its hate symbol database but wrote that most instances of Pepe were not used in a hate-related context.
Writing in Time on October 13, 2016, Furie said that “I understand that it’s out of my control, but in the end, Pepe is whatever you say he is, and I, the creator, say that Pepe is love.”
The next day, the ADL announced that it had partnered with Furie to launch the #SavePepe (or “Save Pepe”) campaign, an attempt to associate the symbol with positivity.
As part of that campaign, Furie collected hundreds of “positive or peaceful” versions of Pepe to store in an online “Peace Pepe Database of Love”. On October 17, 2016, Furie published a satirical take of Pepe’s appropriation by the alt-right movement on The Nib.
The same applies with the Swastika, no? It has been a Buddhist symbol for thousands of years, but fascists are trying to steal it, and the original culture would ‘hate’ them.
Kinda, but the symbols are different, albeit slightly
The buddist symbol is flat with a common variation having 4 dots in the inner corners, with the Nazi shit stain symbol being rotated 90 degrees so it sits on its corner and is never displayed with dots (afaik)
Yes, I know. This topic has come up before, multiple times.
If you change the logo, please let me know.
So you don’t actually care. Good to know.
Why not hard code in more censorship of things you hate? Clearly that’ll work well.
That’s kinda…just letting them get away with something they want, which I personally hate to even give them an inch but whatevs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
What they want is for fascist iconography to be normalised, which is what lemy.lol does.
Check out https://greatawakening.win/
Translation: I don’t care, I have preconcieved notions.
Brother, if you’re not even entertaining the argument then you’re just jumping to conclusions and dismissing it out of hand.
Thats what he does. Acts like he is logical, then bans anyone who doesn’t agree with him.
I thought the whole fascist pepe was like a month long spout years ago that Fox News of all things made a big deal out of. Is Pepe used by any fascist movement today? I think in most internet circles he’s back to his beloved self?
Upvote this one if you want BBT to stay
Just make sure that the new instance is actually better than the old one … instance politics can be tricky to navigate.
Ye say yees to power
Decentralization is power
A instance with better rules is power
Yee powerfull
