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    This happened to me yesterday and might help explain why his approval is still so high:

    I’m in my 40s, sitting in a waiting room, waiting to consult with a doctor about the ol’ snip-snip. The room is filled with aging boomers and gen-x of all walks of life. I mean, the next youngest patient in this room is probably 20-years my senior. Some random guy down the seat row on the other side of the room is talking to someone, presumably his wife but maybe an older female child, about mutual family and friends and the goings-on. I’m ignoring everything as usual until I hear, ‘I know you don’t like tRump…’ My ears perk up.

    He goes on to talk about finding these tRump coins online and inquires into whether some acquaintance of theirs, or their offspring, might like one. I can’t really hear the woman’s response, but she clearly doesn’t want to talk about this now, in this place, and within easy earshot of every soul in the room.

    He reiterates that he knows that she doesn’t like tRump, but this is about someone else and if she thinks the coins might make a good gift. I still can’t hear the whole response from the lady, but she mentions the AI Jesus post. Dude seemed clueless as to what she was talking about. He says, ‘no, I hadn’t heard about that’. She goes on to explain how much it upset people and the backpedaling he tried to do to sane face with Christians.

    Here’s a dude buying tRump coins as gifts like a dude might buy a sports team’s merchandise, not knowing the shit that’s actively perpetuated by that sports team. It’s clear that most are not on tRump’s Twitter clone for infantile adults, but likely only see the posts that some Facebook groups want them to see. Whatever echo chamber these people are siloed in is going to great lengths to isolate that 33% from the real shit tRump does.

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      I hear you and I want to acknowledge that people are complex and many otherwise good people are caught in these echo chambers doing or supporting bad things.

      That said, it’s no fucking excuse to not educate yourself and stay up on the news.

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        No excuse, but that anger seems to only exacerbate the issue. For what its worth, i think the information age has created a huge curse of knowledge between generations and social economic groups and social media is being weaponized to increase this phenomenon

        The “curse of knowledge” is a cognitive bias where experts or informed individuals fail to accurately imagine what it is like not to know something, assuming others share their level of understanding. This leads to poor communication, teaching difficulties, and overestimating others’ knowledge. It differs from the Dunning-Kruger effect, where people with low ability overestimate their competence.

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        These people barely understand that different news sources exist. They just learn things from “the TV”.

        “Social Media? I think my nephew told me about that once in 2014, but I can’t remember what it is.”

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        it’s no fucking excuse to not educate yourself and stay up on the news.

        you mean watch Fox news on the TV?

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      …not knowing the shit that’s actively perpetuated by that sports team

      I may consider this reasonable if the Doctor Jesus thing was the odd thing the child rapist had done but we are literally talking about 2 scandals per week at minimum. What you saw there is not a man who is out of the loop, what you saw in display was one of the true American values: “willful ignorance”

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      I have definitely heard the “I know you don’t like tRump…” intro to a statement from his supporters (who happened to be family or friends) at least a few times before. It’s too early for me to analyze the commonality right now.

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        It’s lampshading to deflect negative reactions.

        “I said I know you don’t like him, you don’t need to keep repeating it.”

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      The only future for the world is the fact that most Boomers will be dead in the next 10 years.

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    1/3 people support the pedophile in chief. Lmao. Let that sink in. “Craters” lol

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    “Craters”

    Journalist looks at a slow genty downward slope…

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        no, it’s the same exact slope, and it’s 0.9% not 5%. it’s a minor error bar on a long downward trajectory. He hasn’t changed trajectory, if you want to say it cratered, you need to something that’s changing the trajectory. less than 1% is just a continued shitty slide.

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      Can’t believe it kinda recovered early last summer. Wasn’t that when he was flipflopping on tariffs? The tariffs the gov now needs to pay back after businesses raised prices to compensate for them?

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        That’s when he was going to send out those tariff checks out of thin air. It worked during Covid so he figured he would try it again.

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        lot of people love what ice is doing and are happy to suffer any minor inconvenience over that, a significant portion of them also like watching the moral outrage from the libs as a bonus

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        it’s the same 1% drop you see in the rest of the graph. His approval is bad, but that .9% is no crater.

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      29% of voters voted for him in 2024. It’s literally just his cult supporting him at this point–he’s lost the entire rest of the country. Finally.

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    The bar has fallen hasn’t it? Dubya had a lower rating and he at least handled himself with more decorum than Trump even has the capacity for. This 33 needs to drop below 20.

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      The propaganda and isolation algorithms are in full swing with Trump, in a way that they could only dream of in Dubya’s day.

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    New lows/highs in polling are definitely worth reporting, but we also shouldn’t overinterpret individual polls. Nate Silver’s approval tracker still has Trump at 39.3% approval, just below the 40% line.

    So what I’m trying to say is: It’s still much much worse than y’all think. High costs of living, cruelty towards immigrants and non-white citizens, blatant corruption, wars, and all that together doesn’t even move the needle that much.

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    The last tanker of oil was said to have reached port a couple days ago. Our buffer is gone. Let’s see what happens. Will paper prices meet the real price? What about food prices? Next month should be interesting.

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    That’s a bit more than the number of people who voted for him. So technically he’s doing better than before he went into office.

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      If we somehow survive this, 60%+ of Americans should file a class action lawsuit against Fox News for causing and contributing to such widespread destruction of our democracy.

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        Media is consolidating into the hands of right wing billionaires, now CBS and CNN are in those same right wing hands. If it keeps goign there wont be any left wing mainstream media.,

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          As dire as our situation is becoming, I actually feel generally sanguine about our podcast system. Chuck Todd points this out frequently, as he blames/thanks the corporate authoritarianism for him leaving NBC to start his own podcast. I didn’t care much for him on Meet the Press, but I actually like him a lot now and, more importantly, appreciate his insight and intuitions.

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        We really need a way to hold these people accountable. They know they are manipulating people and lying.

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    It’s not going to get much lower than this. About all that’s left are the total morons that wouldn’t change if Trump himself had a gun to their child’s head, as well as the criminal sociopaths who appreciate the corrupt MAGA environment that makes their occupation so easy and lucrative.

    Neither one of those groups is going to abandon MAGA to any great degree. We might get to 30%, or perhaps one or two points lower, but that’s about it.

    So work on those people around you who are close to quitting, or have recently quit. We don’t want them going back, or digging in deeper. They are doubting MAGA right now, so show them what’s going on now, while they are slightly receptive.

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      “I don’t like how he put a gun to my kid’s head, but I do like how he puts guns to the heads of other children.”