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Any suggestions on alternatives for blocking adds?
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Sorry to stomp on the hate parade, but a ublock origin dev says this a adblock bug. Just use ublock origin.
People should use Firefox and uBlock Origin
I always assume that people in a community like this are using them, but clearly such is not the case
So often I see people asking questions and I know that if they were using Firefox and uBlock, they wouldn’t have the problems they’re having
I feel the same.
Working at a college its always shocking finding out a lot of the youth don’t know ad blocking at least. Volunteering after my shift to help with tutoring or other help they will try to show me a youtube video even on their personal laptop. Every start of a semester its something that leaves me shaking my head.
I don’t really like the term “echo chamber,” but that sort of thing makes me realize I’m really in one. Nearly everyone I interact with online just takes things like adblocking and basic internet hygiene for granted, but every so often I encounter someone who reminds me that there are a lot of people who don’t know the first thing about such things.
I remember one time this kid asked me, “What’s Chromium? I have this app called ‘Chromium’ but I don’t know what it’s for,” so I went into a lengthy explanation about how it’s an internet browser, and how Chrome is based on Chromium but that Chromium without Google exists, whereupon they showed me their laptop, and it was severely infected with some obvious malware that put a search bar on their desktop titled “Chromium.”
Sadly it doesn’t work for me anymore (and yes I have followed uBlock’s instructions).
What exactly doesn’t work?
Using Firefox and uBlock Origin, and following uBlock’s instructions re: resetting and updating. Getting timeouts and popups from YT regardless.
Hmmm, I’m not seeing these problems at all. It’s probably worth reporting
I’m sorry to hear that because I had similar problem but clearing cookies & cached web content option ended up working for me. Hope you find something that work because it was awful to experience ads after so long. I track stuff I subscribe to with TubeSync but still like to search for new topics & the ads were annoying.
Make sure you’re not using other ad blockers/privacy tools in addition to uBlock Origin.
I use UBO and have definitely noticed videos stuttering in the last week or two.
Not true. The implicit wait of 5000 milliseconds is hard-coded to non-chrome browsers.
That’s a separate issue. The bugs on AdBlock And AdBlock Plus extensions affect not only YouTube but other websites as well (as said by uBO dev). This isn’t on google but the extensions themselves.
Source?
I have post history of going through their JS, this is a Google-sucks thing, full stop.
uBO Dev already shared it in the twitter thread but here you go
https://gitlab.com/adblockinc/ext/adblockplus/adblockplusui/-/issues/1576#note_1725604837
and brave if you are not interrsted toó much on workarrounds?
Any non-chrome browser will experience a 5 second delay (IF they have an adblocker)
FWIW, with Firefox on Linux with pihole on my network and ublock origin, some component (or the mix) of those things seems to have meant that so far I have yet to experience a single one of the things Google has been doing since the adblock wars began again. I just checked now to see if there was any delay, and there is not.
I haven’t seen a single popup, nor a single warning, no slowdowns, and no ads. I installed freetube in preparation for getting screwed, and although I like it, ad-wise and speed-wise it’s no different than hitting youtube directly.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
“Checked to see if there was any delay” is not entirely a good argument when I have post history of going through the JS.
That 5000ms wait is still in there; if I had to guess, your Pihole is preventing any real issue there.
OK. I’m not claiming google isn’t trying. I’m claiming it doesn’t matter, and this is a solvable problem for end users. Most others in this thread are saying just FF and ublock does it, so I probably have overkill going on.
I only know this is happening with Youtube recently because of seeing other people talk about it.
Same here. uBO + Firefox
If there’s been a delay, it’s not been noticeable to me
But brave is based con Chrome.V8
Idk, I don’t use ublock but ever since this last wave of allegations of throttling adblock users I’ve been getting videos just refusing to load any of the beginning of the vid after the first couple seconds. It’ll play the last 3/4ths though.
I don’t remember the exact name of my adblock but it’s not ublock origin
firefox and ublock, which works for me. From what I have read this is happening to chrome users.
Or Newpipe
or Revanced
or Freetube.
Or uYou on iOS
Or SmartTube on android TV
You don’t have to jailbreak an apple device anymore, side loading works?
You don’t have to jailbreak, you just have to use AltStore and “renew” the app every 7 days. It’s a bit of a pain in the ass in all honesty but it’s still better than watching ads.
I do sometimes find stuff I wanna watch when browsing through YouTube though, and the uYou app is really good. Even allows me to stream up to 4K and screen off etc.
Yattee is so much slower than uYOU. You can also go to any instance url on safari browser and add it to the homescreen and use inviduous as a webapp. But neither one works as good as uYOU when I’m out on the road.
Also:
If you have access to an Apple dev account this is avoidable.
Even more of a pain for me because I am on Linux so have to spin up my Windows 11 VM just to use altstore.
There’s also Yattee for iOS on the App Store. It uses an Invidious instance and I guess because the piracy isn’t part of the app itself it passes the rules? There are plenty of public instances. It also has SponsorBlock built in.
Here’s the app: https://apps.apple.com/au/app/yattee/id1595136629
yeah, FF with ublock, sponsorblock and return dislike on PC works fine.
revanced on mobile works perfectly as well.
youtube can stick it up their ass.
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YouTube is already a sedated, anaemic whale of a website. Adblock probably makes it run faster, given it usually removes stuff rather than add it. If you want speed, I recommend a frontend such as Invidious or Piped, it’s what I use on my weaker laptops where YouTube takes half a minute to load.
Agreed, Invidious is so much lighter than YouTube that I’ve had sucess watching on onion instances via Tor.
Invidious has a bug where it doesn’t update as frequently as it’s supposed to. I’ve had this issue on both my self hosted and public instances. I’m thinking about switching to freetube. Always hear about it but never tried it
Even if they throttled my speed so that I’m wasting the same amount of time waiting for the site to load as i would be by watching an ad, I still win because I didn’t have to watch an ad.
Isn’t it fun going down this road rather than fixing the need for ad blockers. (The ones beyond I’m just not interested)
The fbi recommends using adblockers which is amusing to me as Google is headquartered under their jurisdiction.
Drive by scams malicious scripts and straight up videos that google themselves would kill the account of a creator for.
And on top of that there’s only so many times in an hour I can watch an ad for raid shadow wallet in an hour before I need a suicide hotline
You’re going to get suicide booth ads if you don’t watch out.
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I set my user agent to a google bot. Everything works other than steam chat.
The word is “advertisement” which has only one “d”, so the shortened form of it is "ad’ or “ads”.
But it is “added” to the video! /s
Sadly it works for YouTube. Yesterday I noticed a friend disabled uBlock Origin on YouTube. They don’t care that there’s workarounds, they’d rather watch 2 min ads than read up about something they are not interested in.
Did you tell your friend ads waste far more time than the 3-5 second delay you get on Firefox with ublock? I mean, I get someone would hesitate to install another extension like User-Agent Switcher because you don’t really want to trust it, but even then just using ublock is still faster than watching ads.
You assume people are rational, they are not
Spoken like a cynical back end developer. Communication is key.
You can lead a troglodyte to knowledge but you can’t make them think.
What user-agent would work to stop google from throttling YouTube?
As I said User-Agent switcher for Firefox gets rid of the 5 second wait before the site loads.
Yes, and my question was: using the user-agent switcher, which user agent do you switch to in order to get rid of the 5 second wait before the site loads?
Just select Chrome. Google uses the delay specifically on Firefox. I only enable it for Youtube and Gmail URLs because it can mess with other websites.
If I spend half an hour to find an implement a workaround (because finding ways around YT’s advertising is not my hobby) then I’d have to watch 60 unskippable 30 second ads to break even, every single time they upgrade their cat-and-mouse. I don’t watch that much youtube in a month, probably not in 3 months.
I’ve always just spammed refresh as soon as it takes longer than 2 seconds to load and it usuaally goes back to normal.
youtube-dlp is your friend then - https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp
Also mpv, it can use yt-dlp as a backend to play videos from urls: https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv
If you’re experiencing this issue, unfortunately, you only have two options: Either disable your ad blocker or pay for a YouTube premium subscription
Oh wow, they managed to not say the quiet part out loud.
I’m quite satisfied with GrayJay app.
I’m glad that last week I decided to ditch Youtube proper and use the Invidious frontend instead.
I <3 invidious. Was traveling recently and didn’t have access to my home invidious instance and WOW, yt sucks without it.
I use tailscale. Too easy to setup
I use Twingate to access my home network externally. NetworkChuck has a good video on how it works and how to set up.
User-Agent changer fixes this issue completely for me
What do you switch to?
I changed mine to macos safari. Latest version of both. No delay.
Freetube,cayse it stores your subscriptions oocally meaning you can chabge servers when one is down and continue senjoying your videos
