Andor is good but I do get the vibe it’s written by Libs who are also just military history nerds and accidentally made it seem Leninist cuz they read a bunch of shit about Che and the Bolsheviks before hand.
They can’t make the rebellion bad. It’s Star Wars. They can Grey it uo a bit but we already know how things go and it’s pretty clear who the good guys are and they won’t be allowed to change that too much.
That’s how Saw Gerrera is usually used, but Andor was special because they didn’t do that with him. He’s not bad in Andor because he’s too extreme, he’s an obstacle for Luthen because he refuses to unite- and he’s right to do so. If he’d agreed with Luthen in their first conversation his whole org would have been killed
Literally a TV show about interplanetary space empire ruled by an evil wizard, so… very likely it will deviate from reality by leaps and bounds.
Its entertainment. It happens to be entertainment with good politics, but its still just a big dumb show for the hogs. If you want history, read history. If you want politics, go to a fucking meeting full of other people interested in doing politics. If you want a fairy tale about some cool dudes cosplaying as that one Russian guy who successfully led a revolution, then that’s fine. Everyone wants a bit of entertainment now and then. But that’s what that is.
Humans are a storytelling species, I’d hazard that for the average person a well put together narrative has infinitely more swaying power than history. You can transform actual history into a clean, compelling narrative, but then much nuance is lost and it becomes something of a mistruth. To package a narrative taken from history into a fictional story allows the themes to stand out, without risking someone feeling misled.
That’s fine by me cause they’re stuck with a cannon where the rebellion is absolutely the good guys. I’m certain it was by accident but it’d be pretty lib of me to judge thebintent behind something rather than the material result.
Andor is doing a heckin Leninism
Andor is good but I do get the vibe it’s written by Libs who are also just military history nerds and accidentally made it seem Leninist cuz they read a bunch of shit about Che and the Bolsheviks before hand.
Accuratly portraying history is doing a communism. You dont have to intentionally do a communism to do a communism.
True but idk how accurate we can call it till it’s over
They can’t make the rebellion bad. It’s Star Wars. They can Grey it uo a bit but we already know how things go and it’s pretty clear who the good guys are and they won’t be allowed to change that too much.
What they can do is make the radical elements of the rebellion out to be holding them back, but it doesn’t make sense with the story at all.
That’s how Saw Gerrera is usually used, but Andor was special because they didn’t do that with him. He’s not bad in Andor because he’s too extreme, he’s an obstacle for Luthen because he refuses to unite- and he’s right to do so. If he’d agreed with Luthen in their first conversation his whole org would have been killed
Literally a TV show about interplanetary space empire ruled by an evil wizard, so… very likely it will deviate from reality by leaps and bounds.
Its entertainment. It happens to be entertainment with good politics, but its still just a big dumb show for the hogs. If you want history, read history. If you want politics, go to a fucking meeting full of other people interested in doing politics. If you want a fairy tale about some cool dudes cosplaying as that one Russian guy who successfully led a revolution, then that’s fine. Everyone wants a bit of entertainment now and then. But that’s what that is.
Humans are a storytelling species, I’d hazard that for the average person a well put together narrative has infinitely more swaying power than history. You can transform actual history into a clean, compelling narrative, but then much nuance is lost and it becomes something of a mistruth. To package a narrative taken from history into a fictional story allows the themes to stand out, without risking someone feeling misled.
Okay sure. But Space Wizards make for a poor historical dialectic.
I kinda like the “this man isn’t a space wizard, and yet must oppose them” aspect. But yeah, in general, totally.
That’s fine by me cause they’re stuck with a cannon where the rebellion is absolutely the good guys. I’m certain it was by accident but it’d be pretty lib of me to judge thebintent behind something rather than the material result.