As some of you may know, !wholesome@reddthat.com is now more active than this community. Reddthat is a nice instance, and having the community there allows us to spread the communities across the different instances.

As it is usually easier for people to subscribe to only community, we are thinking about creating a pinned post here, pointing to !wholesome@reddthat.com, and lock the community.

If needed, the community can always be unlocked in the future.

Examples of other communities doing the same

  • Blaze (he/him)@piefed.zip
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    3 days ago

    Or like me they subbed to more than one of the same community across instances. It shouldn’t be a competition.

    It’s not a competition, it’s about keeping an activity level in one place. It’s indeed easier to stay subscribed to several communities, but once you start posting you always double guess which one you should post to ( https://lawsofux.com/choice-overload/ ).

    Then the community fades away and that is what I would prefer to happen instead of formally closing and moving.

    As I said, it never really fades away. There was a post on https://lemmy.world/c/moviesandtv@lemmy.film this week (https://lemmy.world/post/36120606?scrollToComments=true ) , that person will probably never get any comment there because it’s not federated, but they have no way to know about that.

    Then if someone shows up to give the platform a try, they have a look at a community like !lego@piefed.social that barely has any posts, when !lego@piefed.social has activity daily. They think the platform is dead, and leave.

    A post about the prolific posters switching over worked well for the migration to piefed as far as I can tell.

    Depends on the community. !movies@piefed.social is indeed more active, but you still have people posting to !movies@lemmy.world because they think it has a bigger audience. Same for !lego@piefed.social and !lego@lemmy.world. The only ones where there really a move were the communities on lemm.ee, as the instance shut down.

    • hzl@piefed.blahaj.zone
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      3 days ago

      I know you’ve probably gotten this feedback a lot, but this whole crusade of yours of trying to reduce decentralization on Lemmy is really counterproductive. If Lemmy users wanted centralization they wouldn’t be on a decentralized protocol.

    • mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
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      It’s not a competition, it’s about keeping an activity level in one place. It’s indeed easier to stay subscribed to several communities, but once you start posting you always double guess which one you should post to ( https://lawsofux.com/choice-overload/ ).

      This sounds like you’re in favor of keeping everything in a single community i.e. consolidation despite claiming to be against it.

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      3 days ago

      Allowing posts to be created for communities on shut down instances is something that should be solved with a technical solution.

      Discovery of communities is a much bigger issue than which community someone happens to land on to look for activity. Once people get a sub list going they don’t have easy ways to know new communities are being created. Even if they browse All they might be sorting for popularity. If they use Local they never see stuff from other instances. If they look at an instance they won’t see content from defederated instances. They also won’t see the external content that nobody from that instance has subbed to.

      Having more than one community with the same name and topic is something that could be addressed by encouraging people to find similar communities. The easiest would be an indicator that other federated communities with the same name exist that they could review and maybe click the join button. The end result would be more people finding out about similar communities across instances and far less need for crossposting to get more eyeballs.

      As a side note, large instances are preferred by users who mostly view because the more people means more federation since communities on other instances only show if someone subs. That means the big instances are the ones that will grow because they already show most of the content by default.

      • Blaze (he/him)@piefed.zip
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        Discovery of communities is a much bigger issue than which community someone happens to land on to look for activity. Once people get a sub list going they don’t have easy ways to know new communities are being created. Even if they browse All they might be sorting for popularity. If they use Local they never see stuff from other instances. If they look at an instance they won’t see content from defederated instances. They also won’t see the external content that nobody from that instance has subbed to.

        Indeed. Piefed now pulls data from !newcommunities@lemmy.world to monitor new communities, and there are discussions to implement a way to ingest information from lemmyverse as well ( https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/4-developers/topic/Lemmyverse.20Community.20Discovery/near/4966 )

        I’ve been posting a few communities to !newcommunities@lemmy.world in the last few days to make use of that feature.

        The easiest would be an indicator that other federated communities with the same name exist that they could review and maybe click the join button.

        This is already here in Piefed (right side of the screen, “Related Communities”):

        As a side note, large instances are preferred by users who mostly view because the more people means more federation since communities on other instances only show if someone subs.

        I am aware, but that should only be a concern for user concentration, not community concentration.

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          Isn’t the related Communities something that is manually added to the right hand menu?

          I was thinking of something that would be next to the link name above the post, where it would be a heads up that a community exists on another instance with the exact same name. Automated and noticeable even if the sidebar isn’t showing due to being on mobile or not having the web browser wide enough.

          Either piefed.world doesn’t support images or I need to turn something on or I would post an image to show what I mean. It would be something in addition to related communities, which is neat, but not based on exact matches.