• Cypher@lemmy.world
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    The bald Monk lady wasn’t particularly popular as a casting choice IIRC and this implies that Romani people can’t have a pale complexion which isn’t true at all.

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      I don’t know this one but it looks like the bald monk lady was supposed to be Tibetan, not Romani? She’s definitely not Tibetan.

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        She’s a recast of an Orientalist character because they decided that was less problematic than the Orientalism

        But they still did the rest of the Orientalism and Wong was the best part of the movie so…

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          They made her Celtic…

          Not that any of that matters. She was ok on the movie, so very few people complained and no studio amplified the race-rage to cover up for the people complaining that the movie sucks.

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            A Celt with a shaved head wearing Asian robes, living in a Tibetan monastery that Dr. Strange reaches after backpacking through Asia looking for spiritual enlightenment lol

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                Sure. Doesn’t stop it from being blatant Orientalism on screen while not even bothering to cast an Asian person for the role.

                At least give her a knot tattoo or something, damn, that’s just some bald white lady that you made vague and irrelevant Druidic implications about otherwise.

                It’d have been really cool if they had each sorcerer using distinct styles based on different traditional mysticisms but maybe that’s a bit much to expect of Disney.

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              Somehow, it’s more normal than everybody in a group that recruits people from all over the world for tens of thousands of years having the same ethnicity…

              But I understand if you are complaining it’s different from the comics. As I said, it doesn’t matter.

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        I mentioned two separate characters in my comment, the Tibetan monk first, and the second being the Romani character. I’m not sure how that was unclear.

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          I think the “this” in “this implies” can read as referring to the casting choice for the tibetan monk, not to the meme itself.

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          It was unclear because you switched topic mid sentence without even using a comma. We ain’t mind readers.

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            While that would have made it more explicit yes, it wasn’t that hard to figure out they were talking about two different characters when you understand that the bald monk wasn’t labelled romani

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    I saw something that it only works if the character was in a book that hasn’t had a movie adaptation yet. In the Shawshank Redemption, “Red” was originally a white irishman. But because bigots don’t read books, it didn’t upset anyone when Morgan Freeman played him.

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      You know I don’t care but it ever only happens one way. If they just choose the best person for the role there should be some white people who are best. And I don’t mean these from comic books. I mean fables and tales like the little mermaid is a white or black Mulan a none polynesian Muai. Or how about race switching a real person like an Asian playing Roasa Parks. Since they did get a black woman to play Anne Boleyn who was a real person.

      And if we want to represent more diverse people in the film industry whey retell the same stories, it seems kind of odd to just swap a character and say diversity. Why not tell some of their stories.

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    This isn’t political, it’s just a comment on the acting and entertainment industry as being racist.

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    Uhh, off the top of my head, Nick Fury was white, but Jackson was awesome, and no one wants anyone else to have that role. kingpins is white but Michael Clarke Duncan fucking rocked that shit. Heimdell was Idris Elba, and he was awesome in that part. Zendaya, as mj was the best mj so far. I’m sure there’s more, so maybe stop rage baiting…

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      Yeah, has anyone considered that people simply weren’t familiar with the source material for the rest of these?

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        I’m mad that billionaires have used identity politics to stop taxing the rich, I’m mad that center left parties are only able to talk about identity pol & handouts, without taxing the rich, I’m mad that time and time again the means of production is shackled, I’m mad that people keep falling for right wing trickle down economics.

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    As I said before:

    They hate live action Ariel because she’s “ugly.”

    And that is so much worse. Especially when people see nothing wrong with that statement.

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      Imagine being so vain that you get angry that a movie role is played by someone that you think is ugly.

      How pathetic.

      I’m not sure if that’s worse than being a racist piece of shit about it, but it can’t be far behind.

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        Well that’s just it; it’s tied up in racism. They’re calling Ariel ugly because she’s an African American woman.

        I mean… I’m fine with people complaining about actors not fitting roles, but that’s not the case here.

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          Oh. Was my comment too subtle?

          I’ll clarify: if anyone actually thinks that an actor playing a role is ugly, and gets mad about it, that’s pathetic. But we all know why their calling her “ugly” don’t we?

          And if that’s not blatant enough: they’re calling her ugly because she’s black, not because she’s unattractive. And I don’t mean to imply she’s unattractive by this, just that her attractiveness isn’t the actual problem.

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            It’s especially ridiculous because:

            • A: Halle Bailey’s painfully gorgeous

            • B: She’s got this… How do I describe it? ‘Mythologic’ look? Like she’s how I’d picture a siren out of The Odyssey or something like that.

            Again, I’m all for actors matching their characters, and soulless ‘diversity’ casting just for the veneer of inclusivity can be less than ideal, but that’s not close to the case here. The rage around Ariel was just totally absurd (and absolutely racist).

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              I don’t want to comment prematurely about her looks. I haven’t seen the movie, I don’t know how well she played the role, and I don’t believe I’ve seen a lot from that actor, so I have no basis by which I can create an opinion either way.

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    Show me a tale from another country where they put in a white person. The little Mermaid is a Danish tale.