“Instead of catching real criminals and terrorists, we are arresting pensioners and disabled people calling for the saving of children’s lives,” said one Metropolitan Police officer.
They can literally not do it…
Cops have an insane amount of power because they can just not do their job whenever they feel like it
I doubt it’s that easy. There will be disciplinary systems. And if they quit, I’m sure the govt will find people with fewer morals to take their place.
How can they discipline you for not seeing something? Also, no one is saying to quit. They should keep working, but just become blind to these “criminals.”
Sort of like a police strike for better conditions for the public.
Your talking about their discretionary powers and that’s not going to be relevant on a protest enforcement action where their senior officer in command will have laid out exactly what the criteria to arrest is.
So stop doing it then you fuckwits
If you’re ashamed of the job you are doing, find a new job.
This isn’t like working in fast food, where you can just find another job right away. You’re talking about abandoning a career the officer has spent years building.
Principles aren’t principles if you only follow them when they’re easy.
Easy for us to say.
I’m not claiming to be the moral arbiters of the nation though, am I. They are, that’s the job they chose to do, it’s not my fault they suddenly don’t like it. Same for the military in the US wandering aboud LA, and DC.
Demanding they quit because of this has definite “I live with my parents” vibes though. I doubt that person has a mortgage.
This is bullshit. I’d rather sell my house and move to a poorer area and find a job where I don’t hurt people for half the pay, then to hurt people as a police office or in the military. I would expect a wife and children to be pretty understanding of that. And yes I have a mortgage, and no I’m not rich.
Again, they were aware that was always a possibility when they took the job. If you have a job that involves following orders so there is always the possibility that you will be given orders you don’t agree with, you should think about that before signing up.
Seems a bit daft. The answer then is to have either no police, or to have police who will mindlessly follow any order?
No police would be great, but in the absence of that ideal, I’d rather have people in the role who question the morality of what they’re doing. Compare this response with ICE in the US who kidnap people off the streets and send them to concentration camps and don’t complain that they disagree with what they are doing
Easy to say but my job is shit and what real choice do I have? Sure I can look for something else but there isn’t much out there.
Are you a cop? If so then you don’t need me to tell you about all of the private security gigs that are going because you 100% already knew about them.
Principles can be in conflict though. The promise to provide stability for your family, for example, is often more urgent than more lofty political principles. In this situation, looking actively for another job whilst continuing to perform the tasks you disagree with at a level of bare minimum compliance might be an ethically acceptable compromise.
You dont have a line you wouldnt cross at work? Arresting someone carries a risk of harm, would you harm someone else daily whilst looking for new work?
There are tons of lines I wouldn’t cross at work, but those lines would be different in another job. If arresting people is generally part of your job description, then I would expect you to have different red lines.
It is a fine principle to uphold the law. In this particular case it is the law that’s an ass, not the enforcement.
Yeah cuffing pensioners is a real skill that must be honed with years of hard work & training
https://www.joiningthepolice.co.uk/training-progression/training
18-22 weeks of classroom based training, then three months supervision on the job. Then they will be getting promoted as they get more experienced.
It’s a lot to just walk away from.
“Just following orders” you say? You could choose not to do it. You could choose to not participate in injustice. What you are doing is bad and you should feel bad for doing it.
Not a good policy for police to choose what laws to enforce.
I take it you have some kind of experience of reporting a burglary and having them follow it up at all then?
That’s more inability than unwillingness.
The whole point of protesting is visibility. The whole point of burglary is invisibility.
Feddit.org users brains cannot comprehend.
I don’t, indeed. Please explain it to me.
It just was but here we are
They should be more like the Italian dock workers.
Then they should refuse to do it, and make the police force go through the trouble of firing them.
This. Right here. Don’t make it easy on the brass by quitting
Resign, pigs.
Quit your shitty job
Do you have a mortgage by any chance? Or pay rent?
Do you always make excuses to make shitty decisions? Or just contrarian?
ACAB holy fuck.
If my boss told me at my job, I had to attack genocide protesters or I would be fired, I think I would rip out his jugular with my teeth and then quit
To be fair, cops have no other marketable skills, so rage quitting has more serious consequences than for normal people with transferable skills.
Fuck Israel, genocidal scum!
Quit then
quit your jobs then???
Ok so quit. Take the opportunity Palestinians are deprived of and remove yourselves from the situation, or shut the fuck up. Shoot and cry bullshit.
