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I point out that Zelensky is a corrupt piece of shit (who also wants to kill me and every other Ukrainian).
I am obviously a Russian bot/shill (and definitely not a Ukrainian guy).
Ok.
People are protesting in the streets against the corrupt piece of shit. Actual people. Ukrainian people. People actully living in Kiev and other big cities of Ukraine. Western fucking media covers the protests.
Well, you shouldn’t believe this, this news is disinformation, because anything bad about the corrupt piece of shit is disinformation. And even if it is true, those people, like everybody else who hates the corrupt piece of shit, are Russian agents.
Duh.
why does he want to kill Ukrainians?
Dunno, I haven’t been inside his haid.
Anybody’s guess, but the numbers speak for themselves.
Defending their country is killing Ukrainians?
If you define “Defending their country” as turning it into a prison that people cannot leave and are then kidnapped off the streets and sent to die (so, are killed), then yes.
The alternative is let everyone who can’t make it out die.
Yeah? Just like everyone died in Crimea, Melitopol, Donetsk, Lugansk, and all the other liberated cities? :)
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It’s a fact.
Where are people free to move wherever they want, and where people are forbidden to leave the country so that they can be kidnappef off the streets and used as a cannon fodder?
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Have they been discredited as pro Russian elements and warned that they will be treated as such?
I’m sure the regime is thrilled to have thousands of new volunteers to send to the front.
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hard to take any Ukraine-critical news seriously these days.
Why, because the 3+ years of Western propaganda is collapsing now?
bc of organized disinformation campaign to kill their people and steal their land
This is about Ukraine, not Palestine.
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They are not a brainwashed pro-NATO dronie that keeps going ‘everybody who contradicts the people that say, “Iraq has WMDs” must be spreading disinformation!’ Seems like you think that everybody who doesn’t buy your propaganda is Russian for some reason.
The irony of these people who are just utterly saturated by western imperialist propaganda (which they refuse to acknowledge) while calling everything even slightly critical of the NATO narrative “rUsSiAn DiSiNfOrMaTiOn” will never cease to amaze and disappoint me.
Did Putin actually invade Ukraine?
so Putin is right to destroy Ukraine?
Ukraine has refused to negotiate peace repeatedly, which would have avoided the destruction.
Also, you seem fine with NATO having invaded Iran, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Palestine, etc., with Ukraine participating in at least the invasions of Iraq and Syria, so it’s incredibly silly of you to go ‘but what about the destruction?’ You are literally supporting the most prolific invader in the world.
Post-coup Ukraine decided to bring NATO’s weapons and soldiers to the border of Russia’s most populated parts. The rest of the world (including Russia) has every right to defend itself from your vile empire.
bc of organized disinformation campaign to kill their people and steal their land
Yeah, NATO truly is evil like that. Fortunately Russia is liberating town after town on the daily now.
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Are you not taking it seriously as in you dont believe its happening, or not taking it seriously as in you don’t believe its a big deal?
the ladder bc they are being murdered out of existence by Russia ; whom has full-time disinformation teams for all its enemies.
But the two arent connected. If anything having a competent and powerful anti corruption investigative tool would help them fight Russia given the problems with corruption faced by the Ukranian military. Like do you think the Russians have every news agency in the west questioning this by the balls so they’ll say that making an corruption agency less independent is bad?
yeah, that’s mostly fair. But why would it matter if Putin destroys the entire country?
It’s a matter of false equivalency of importance.
But yeah, agree its not a good move for Ukrainian gov.
Russia has neither desire nor capacity to hold ukranian speaking regions.
Why would Putin or his sucessor willingly sign up for a neverending domestic terrorism problem for nothing in return?
Even if you believe that the ideological motivation is false, and the invasion is purely for resources, all of the valuable minerals are in regions that already speak RU and have invited the little green men to assist.
Arable land is something RU has a LOT of. Why would they sign up for a permanent counterinsurgency program for a <2% gain in farmland which will require extensive de-mining before it can be used for anything productive?
Russia is both broke and about to collapse, and has the budget for full-time disinformation teams for all its enemies.
